IK Multimedia creating unpurchased Custom Shop *.dlls

[Orbit-50]

Right - like we're all running out of hard drive space! I really don't see any problem when hard drive space is about the same price as dirt these days!

I'm sorry but I think many are making a deal out of nothing... I don't get it!

Some people don't like when companies decide to install a bunch of extra crap on their computer that they don't need that is included with the software that they paid for. It's sort of like a version of spam or adware built in to the software installed on your computer cloaked as a VST instrument. That's how I look at it. Just imagine if every software company did that. If you can get rid of the bloat to never be seen again, then ok fine whatever. If it keeps coming back though, and it is an integral part of the software that can not be gotten rid of, then that really blows because the company is now forcing you to have to look at these demo items mixed in along with the items that are authorized in the hopes that you will purchase the unauthorized items. Basically you paid the company for a VST software, and also received from them an advertisement vehicle for their other products installed on your computer. I run a very lean setup, and I detest things like this. So, it's not really about hard drive space it's basically about principle. That's how I see it anyway.


.-.

[hibidy]

Right - like we're all running out of hard drive space! I really don't see any problem when hard drive space is about the same price as dirt these days!

I'm sorry but I think many are making a deal out of nothing... I don't get it!

Not that I expect someone to read through all the posts but I think some good arguments have been posed. Some a little over the top, but there is a reason people are miffed by it. It's not just a "big deal over nothing" (and it has NOTHING to do with hard drive space here )

[jancivil]

That's why I keep saying it's important to separate the man from his job

I'm not interested in the man, but you are. I feel free to address what a person says without characterizing their person beyond what they did in the thread. I did say 'this post is why people tire of your presence', and I think it's not untrue, given other replies in the context. I will say to you without needing to say 'you're such a bad person': this is why I tire of your presence, you've already said this about this person as if to modify behavior on the forum numerous times. It seems at times every argument is some quality of ad hominem to you.

[jancivil]

double post

[jancivil]

Right - like we're all running out of hard drive space! I really don't see any problem when hard drive space is about the same price as dirt these days!

I'm sorry but I think many are making a deal out of nothing... I don't get it!

Some people don't like when companies decide to install a bunch of extra crap on their computer that they don't need that is included with the software that they paid for. It's sort of like a version of spam or adware built in to the software installed on your computer cloaked as a VST instrument.
So, it's not really about hard drive space it's basically about principle. That's how I see it anyway.

The plugins installed (without me being aware they would be installed, at some point to do with installing Custom Shop (which I have zero interest in) in order to recover all_of_the_Amplitube 2_things for AT3) amount to a little over 2MB. I have not said one thing about that. I did notice two versions of each of the TRackS things subsequently in VE Pro, no problem, I checked them out by instantiating them (I think I would have seen CS if that was in the plugin name, and known better. But no. (This is another thing, this stupid inconsistency of naming. When I updated these things in order to have x64 versions, they'd changed the internal name. All of those templates have unloadable TRackS instances.)
They're pointless 'CS' duplicates, in fact.

Now I have a really scroll-worthy Plugins/Components directory but I would have to manage things; can't just delete them, the templates will tell me of my error, I would have to go to each one and save settings for the normal version. It's not a giant deal, but the whole thing is an outcome of the vendor making me go through changes that were a total waste of time, behind making the plugin a shopping link to remedy all the crippled things in AT3.


I'd like to reinforce "matter of principle". My time was completely wasted in order to try AT3, which didn't work for many months and on top of that this shit. I think it's good to give a company feedback. I was a big fan until the shit cascade that was AT3/Custom Shop. I've been pretty clear about it. I think other people have been pretty articulate here too. BUT NOOOOOOOO

[Kontrast13]

Actually the issue WAS that I had deleted them and they reappeared. I found that this is because scrolling through the presets causes them to be recreated. So it was more than just "30 seconds" until I figured it out. I get what your point is but you missed mine.

As I said, this is remedied by deleting the offending presets.

Sorry dude, the comment I made was for a post a few above mine. Probably shoulda quoted it back then but I was more interested in asking about the new A3 stuff

[frankz00]

Sorry dude, the comment I made was for a post a few above mine. Probably shoulda quoted it back then but I was more interested in asking about the new A3 stuff

No prob. I hear ya.

[robotmonkey]

Right - like we're all running out of hard drive space! I really don't see any problem when hard drive space is about the same price as dirt these days!

I'm sorry but I think many are making a deal out of nothing... I don't get it!

If you are keeping your program files on a 80 or 120 gb SSD drive space could also easily become a problem.

[rustman]

Kinda like I mentioned above...

[Eleventh]

Basically you paid the company for a VST software, and also received from them an advertisement vehicle for their other products installed on your computer.

Yeah that's Custom Shop for ya. I still have the install file for the AT3 version prior to CS, and would use that gladly, except it had some CPU hogging bug iirc.

[Novalis]

Hard drive space is really not the biggest issue here.

But who the hell wants tons of plug-ins listed in their DAW, which you cannot use?
I open the IK Multimedia folder, and half of the plug-ins listed there I cannot use.

Just imagine, as someone mentioned earlier, if every company would do this.
You buy one of their plug-ins, and then ALL of their products get listed in your DAW.
A total nightmare.

So I totally agree, we have to speak up against such kind of a business model, before others adopt this "fantastic idea".

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

Basically you paid the company for a VST software, and also received from them an advertisement vehicle for their other products installed on your computer.

Yeah that's Custom Shop for ya. I still have the install file for the AT3 version prior to CS, and would use that gladly, except it had some CPU hogging bug iirc.

Custom Shop is a separate application that does not need to be opened in order to use AmpliTube or T-RackS unless you are demoing gear from either of those products. So that's Custom Shop for ya, can be opened to restore, try, or buy your gear in a couple of clicks, closed again, and left alone while you use that gear until you need to do so again for any reason (or you'd like to demo or purchase gear via Custom Shop, though you can also purchase T-RackS single processors directly from our site if you don't even want to open Custom Shop for that). Regarding what I feel was more the context of the whole message from which you extracted a portion to quote (installation of the plugins themselves and listed in one's DAW), that has been answered and suggestions/concerns about it have been relayed.

Edit - for those that need more information about Custom Shop and what it does, we do have some information on our web site: http://amplitube.com/customshop or http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/trcs/

[hibidy]

I know it's a first world problem, but I only own one of the reverbs. Imagine my horror when they are all listed and I can't remember which one is mine

[Arglebargle]

I know it's a first world problem, but I only own one of the reverbs. Imagine my horror when they are all listed and I can't remember which one is mine

that literally makes me want to move to Ethiopia just to experience true suffering.

[hibidy]

Or you could just listen to kanye west. That's true suffering at it's finest.