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gogy_tkd · Post by **gogy_tkd** » Mon May 26, 2014 9:37 pm

Since I am neewbie I need a good uplifting trance kick. I have venegeance club sounds 4 package, so can somebody tell me a number of a proper trance kick for uplifting trance. I am noob so I don't know how to properly layer kicks

Regards

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Mon May 26, 2014 9:42 pm

One day, science will discover the most uplifting kick in the world. A kick so joyous in it's sonorities that one "whump" from it will melt all your cares away

I don't know anything about Vengence sample packs, but I can tell you, if you're layering kicks, you might want to filter the bass content away from all but one of them using a highpass filter, otherwise you can get phase problems.

manducator · Post by **manducator** » Tue May 27, 2014 12:02 am

Here's a little secret;

You can listen to a song containing the type of kick you like. Then you listen to the vengeance sample pack and you search for the kick that resembles the most to the kick from the song. Use your ears.

Don't tell this to anyone, using your ears while making music is our little secret...

LimboLoves · Post by **LimboLoves** » Tue May 27, 2014 1:06 am

If you want to make good music, you need to learn how do make things yourself. Watch some tutorials, put a fast envelope on the master pitch and learn how to make your own.

djshire · Post by **djshire** » Tue May 27, 2014 3:03 pm

How to make the Discover-style kick, which has since been co-opted by EDM
http://trance.nu/v4/forum/viewtopic.php?t=151371

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Wed May 28, 2014 12:53 pm

I had some success recently with proper layering of simple psy kicks, adjusting their pitch and phase. This gives that obliterating smash present in most powerful uplifters.

I have venegeance club sounds 4 package, so can somebody tell me a number of a proper trance kick for uplifting trance

If you can't even listen to pre-made samples and choose the right one, no one can help you.

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Wed May 28, 2014 2:32 pm

The problem is even if you as newbie find the "perfect" Kick it will be transformed to the worst kick ever during mixing.

chaosWyrM · Post by **chaosWyrM** » Wed May 28, 2014 5:40 pm

i understand this is kvr and what that means in so far as the kinds of responses people give to questions they think are silly. i dont think this is the proper section for that. the guy asked for help, he said he was new...i think we should cut him a little slack.

as for the "need to make things yourself", total hogwash. yes it helps to know how to roll your own sounds...but its certainly not a requirement and you can figure that out as you go.

there is no such thing as a " proper trance kick for uplifting trance". its just a kick...used in that kind of track. you could place that same kick in a hundred other tracks of differing styles and it would be fine.

as was mentioned...just use your ears. go through the kicks you have...find one you think might work and plug it in. if its still not quite right...start tweaking it. the best way to learn is to just try stuff out, you arent going to break anything.

also maybe dont start out with layering your kicks...see if you can make just one work (and you can). you cant just stack kicks up on top of each other and expect it sound good. theres some tricky filtering involved to get just the parts of each sound you need. it doesnt sound as if youre up for that just yet. no biggie...you dont need it.

PsYcHo SaMuRai · Post by **PsYcHo SaMuRai** » Wed May 28, 2014 11:07 pm

I'm a noob myself.
I understand adding some punch or even EQ on the other tracks to bring out the kick but some of the samples I hear are SO layered and filtered it makes me think they should have started with different source material to begin with.

arkmabat · Post by **arkmabat** » Wed May 28, 2014 11:29 pm

Waves Bass can really add a punch

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Thu May 29, 2014 1:35 am

What a bunch of hogwash, kick number 42 from the vengence sample pack is, without a doubt, the most uplifting kick sample.

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Thu May 29, 2014 1:42 am

as i tried to suggest above you must learn to mix. the perfect kick simply is non-existent. your question is irrelevant.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Thu May 29, 2014 2:00 am

murnau wrote:as i tried to suggest above you must learn to mix. the perfect kick simply is non-existent. your question is irrelevant.

Exactly, but if you don't mix the right kick, in this case, #42, your track will not lift the skirts of sparkleponies. That's what we mean by uplifting right? I mean, you've got to vibrate some molecules, know what I'm sayin?

Orbit-50 · Post by **Orbit-50** » Thu May 29, 2014 2:34 am

murnau wrote:The problem is even if you as newbie find the "perfect" Kick it will be transformed to the worst kick ever during mixing.

I was actually banned for years from the American Kick Association for doing just that.

.-.

robogone · Post by **robogone** » Sat May 31, 2014 3:47 pm

manducator wrote:Here's a little secret;

You can listen to a song containing the type of kick you like. Then you listen to the vengeance sample pack and you search for the kick that resembles the most to the kick from the song. Use your ears.

Don't tell this to anyone, using your ears while making music is our little secret...

Sarcasm aside, this is a great piece of advice that is almost never given. Rather than ask other people how to make your music, you could start using your ears. If you never do that you will never progress musically. Listening is much more important than just following construction rules as if it's paint by numbers.

UPLIFTING TRANCE KICK