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tresf · Post by **tresf** » Thu May 22, 2014 3:52 pm

briandc wrote: (and I suspect probably anything else by GTG, but testing will continue..)

This is a safe assumption.

Musical Gym · Post by **Musical Gym** » Thu May 22, 2014 4:20 pm

tresf wrote:OK... @glokraw: Who helps with/approves/answers questions with that?

Apply here

tresf · Post by **tresf** » Thu May 22, 2014 4:21 pm

Thanks.

Musical Gym · Post by **Musical Gym** » Thu May 22, 2014 4:23 pm

tresf wrote:Thanks.

Thanks for all your work on it.

briandc · Post by **briandc** » Thu May 22, 2014 6:48 pm

tresf wrote:
briandc wrote: (and I suspect probably anything else by GTG, but testing will continue..)
This is a safe assumption.

A-ha! So you're one step ahead of me!

I like how VeSTige provides patch selection in the LMMS window. Without that feature, it would be hard to change presets with some synths, methinks.
The effects chain capability is also really handy. NICE!

brian

briandc · Post by **briandc** » Wed May 28, 2014 3:11 pm

Doing some VST synth testing for linux..
I've discovered that although the Tyrell Nexus 6 loads and works fine, the patches for it are not .fxb nor .fxp, but another format: .h2p. Is there a way to import these patches? It would be a BIG plus!

brian

tresf · Post by **tresf** » Wed May 28, 2014 3:42 pm

Good question. I have no idea. You could try adding it to the dialog and recompile to see if it works.

https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/blob/maste ... n.cpp#L514

If it does, you could do a quick patch and submit it to the project.

If it does not, I would recommend further research and a proper bug report to explain the file format and why it should be supported.

-Tres

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Thu May 29, 2014 1:02 am

briandc wrote:Doing some VST synth testing for linux..
I've discovered that although the Tyrell Nexus 6 loads and works fine, the patches for it are not .fxb nor .fxp, but another format: .h2p. Is there a way to import these patches? It would be a BIG plus!

brian

If 'loads and works fine' means it displays the full u-he gui,
click in the horizontal window in the top center of the
instrument, and the widgets alongside it. All u-he synths use a similar setup,
but located and drawn differently, according to purpose and whim.
Cheers

briandc · Post by **briandc** » Thu May 29, 2014 8:42 am

glokraw wrote:
briandc wrote:Doing some VST synth testing for linux..
I've discovered that although the Tyrell Nexus 6 loads and works fine, the patches for it are not .fxb nor .fxp, but another format: .h2p. Is there a way to import these patches? It would be a BIG plus!

brian
If 'loads and works fine' means it displays the full u-he gui,
click in the horizontal window in the top center of the
instrument, and the widgets alongside it. All u-he synths use a similar setup,
but located and drawn differently, according to purpose and whim.
Cheers

HI Glokraw and Tresf,
actually, to be more specific, the Nexus 6 loads and the full gui appears, and the presets can be used, but other banks cannot be loaded (or at least I can't figure out how to do it in the gui), and the data in the windows does not appear until you click on the window. iirc, the parameters are also not marked fully. But since this is a "top" free synth, if it is possible to do a bit of additional work to get it working more perfectly, it would be an important addition to LMMS' capabilities, imho. But I have no knowledge in programming so I don't know how difficult or problematic to do, nor how long it would take to do. (If I could write code I'd be happy to give it a shot.. )

brian

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Thu May 29, 2014 10:55 pm

Did you use the u-he installer and default folder locations,
followed by links to where LMMS looks for vsts?
Do you have the various microsoft font packages installed?
I think vera truetype font is used by most u-he synths.
Did you install the vst V3 version by 'mistake'?

I used TyrellN612Winstaller.exe, vst V2, and installed to
/home/me/.wine/drive_c where the TyrellN6.data folder
now exists, and the .dll in Steinberg/VstPlugins.

The gui displays and works, everything labeled and visible,
in linux reaper, and fst, at the same time.
Good luck

briandc · Post by **briandc** » Sat May 31, 2014 11:03 am

glokraw wrote:Did you use the u-he installer and default folder locations,
followed by links to where LMMS looks for vsts?
Do you have the various microsoft font packages installed?
I think vera truetype font is used by most u-he synths.
Did you install the vst V3 version by 'mistake'?

I used TyrellN612Winstaller.exe, vst V2, and installed to
/home/me/.wine/drive_c where the TyrellN6.data folder
now exists, and the .dll in Steinberg/VstPlugins.

The gui displays and works, everything labeled and visible,
in linux reaper, and fst, at the same time.
Good luck

Actually, I just unzipped the zip file in my Downloads folder (where I have placed all my VST instruments) and then open them in LMMS.
Reaper also opens it fine. (BTW, how do you use fst? (or can you pm me if it's too off-topic..?)

I suppose my computer setup is quite crude and scandalous, as I don't generally move the folders around very much. It's never created problems for me, although if in this case the synth is not showing information in the gui windows I might need to change something. The synth works fine, but since I can't load other banks, I think the "data" folder included in the zip file should be moved, but I don't know where..

brian

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Sat May 31, 2014 9:43 pm

I think you should start fresh and run the installer, accept the defaults,
and then link the .dll to the folders that lmms and other hosts
looks at for windows vsts.

fst is just an old simple command that uses wine/wineasio
to launch a .dll like a standalone.

fst TyrellN6.dll

http://sourceforge.net/projects/fsthost/

http://www.joebutton.co.uk/fst/

Festige was created to provide a gui for the command.

I just link desired vsts to /home/me so there is no path to type in,
route in qjackctl like normal, without host overhead.
This is great for plugins that have their own preset handling built-in,
like u-he, or simple GUIs like the LePou/TSE type amp-sims, where you'll dial in
a tone with just a few knobs to ponder. Also nice to add that final

magical

touch that you conjered up while creating
sonic perfection.
Cheers

briandc · Post by **briandc** » Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:16 pm

@Glokraw: thanks for the tips. I already had fsthost installed, now it's working great with Obxd.

HOWEVER, Obxd is creating a problem with LMMS: when I click on a knob on the GUI, the GUI slips down the window about half way! Then I tweak another knob, same thing. It then moves completely off the screen and the hide/show gui doesn't resolve it, I have to re-load it if I want to tweak.
Tresf: where should I post this bug?

brian

tresf · Post by **tresf** » Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:21 pm

briandc wrote:... where should I post this bug?

https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/issues/new

briandc · Post by **briandc** » Sun Jun 01, 2014 5:24 pm

tresf wrote:
briandc wrote:... where should I post this bug?
https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/issues/new

Done! Let's hope it's quickly solvable, so I can add it to my list!

BTW, here are the softsynth VSTis (so far-- more to come) that I have seen work fine in LMMS (and that weren't already in the database when I started) :

GTG JP7A
GTG NR2010
Ansine2
RMXL
Cosmos2
Casiopea
SQ8L
Aqua
TheBlooo
TheScrooo
Nabla
4Evar
Kassiopeia!2.0
Mopar
Abakos
CY Freemoog
Deputy
Disphase
efm-MicroModular
Oberon
Phazac Osc
Tyrell Nexus 6
GalactiX 14
Harm
Knork+
Kabgnals
NoteGraphica
S30
GTG MS 2008
GTG EP 2008
Rogue
PG-8X
ElektroStudio 10 Analog Pack- v.2.54b

Generally speaking, if there are multiple synths by the same maker, they tend to all work (or not).
A few that don't:
Anawave, Augur, 3OSC8, Dark Moon, Artemis, Artphase 1.0, Additive Table Synth “Angular Momentum”

brian

LMMS project @ GitHub (Prev. Sourceforge)