How do i become a real musician?

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Kevin Deas wrote:oh wait.....that's how to become a comedian......
no, no, no, to be a comedian you have to study at the puniversity
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.

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Hink wrote:
Kevin Deas wrote:oh wait.....that's how to become a comedian......
no, no, no, to be a comedian you have to study at the puniversity
Did you mean the "funnyversity"?

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Kevin Deas wrote:oh wait.....that's how to become a comedian......
I thought one becomes a comedian by joining a Internet forum. Everyone here is a comedian, right?

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ras.s wrote:
Kevin Deas wrote:oh wait.....that's how to become a comedian......
I thought one becomes a comedian by joining a Internet forum. Everyone here is a comedian, right?
By joining an Internet forum you'll become a tragedian!

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Tricky-Loops wrote:
Hink wrote:
Kevin Deas wrote:oh wait.....that's how to become a comedian......
no, no, no, to be a comedian you have to study at the puniversity
Did you mean the "funnyversity"?

I said P.U. not F.U. :x :hihi:
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.

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robojam wrote:
V0RT3X wrote:Seriously..
Really seriously?
Nope, i'm just lazy and need to get more serious with my musical theory. I thought this would be funny to post though just for a laugh.
:borg:

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V0RT3X wrote:
robojam wrote:
V0RT3X wrote:Seriously..
Really seriously?
Nope, i'm just lazy and need to get more serious with my musical theory. I thought this would be funny to post though just for a laugh.
Thought so :hihi:

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I guess I am considered a real musician these days. The only thing I've really done consistently is smoke pot, so my advice would be to smoke pot.
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debra1rlo wrote:I guess I am considered a real musician these days. The only thing I've really done consistently is smoke pot, so my advice would be to smoke pot.
I'm straight edge now, i stay away from all that stuff otherwise id go ask my neighbors to hook me up with some. :lol:
:borg:

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stick with music then. you have no idea how much weed you gotta smoke to be a real developer.
you come and go, you come and go. amitabha neither a follower nor a leader be tagore "where roads are made i lose my way" where there is certainty, consideration is absent.

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xoxos wrote:stick with music then. you have no idea how much weed you gotta smoke to be a real developer.
Or you could just use your brain. But I'd agree on sticking with music, as development is nowhere near as much fun.

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Ask The Blue Fairy. And listen to the cricket.

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robojam wrote:
V0RT3X wrote:Seriously..
Really seriously?
Haha. If you don't mean it seriously this thread will transform into
an infinite number of little dirty jokes. And so it would become very
boring and desert, because there are so many other threads with
little dirty jokes. :neutral:

But your serious question "how do i become a real musician" can
grow more acute by asking:

:arrow: What does the label "real musician" stand for from the
point of view of the normal man or woman on the street?


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For most people on the street a "real musician" is someone, who
plays an acoustic traditional instrument with virtuosity.

For some people on the street the label "real musician" is only given
to somebody who did study music at university.

Vice versa a composer, a loop-tinkerer, a PC home constructor, a
recording engineer or an audio engineer - these are not labelled
"real musicians". That is because everyman cannot see these people
anywhere. They're never on TV, they're not in the concert hall or in
the stadium - and so for everyman they are just not existent.

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So if you are really keen on the label "real musician" just sign up for
a study at a university, at the department "music".

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enroe wrote:
robojam wrote:
V0RT3X wrote:Seriously..
Really seriously?
Haha. If you don't mean it seriously this thread will transform into
an infinite number of little dirty jokes. And so it would become very
boring and desert, because there are so many other threads with
little dirty jokes. :neutral:

But your serious question "how do i become a real musician" can
grow more acute by asking:

:arrow: What does the label "real musician" stand for from the
point of view of the normal man or woman on the street?


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For most people on the street a "real musician" is someone, who
plays an acoustic traditional instrument with virtuosity.

For some people on the street the label "real musician" is only given
to somebody who did study music at university.

Vice versa a composer, a loop-tinkerer, a PC home constructor, a
recording engineer or an audio engineer - these are not labelled
"real musicians". That is because everyman cannot see these people
anywhere. They're never on TV, they're not in the concert hall or in
the stadium - and so for everyman they are just not existent.

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So if you are really keen on the label "real musician" just sign up for
a study at a university, at the department "music".

:phones:
so if until you're a virtuoso and it must be an acoustic traditional instrument according to the people on the street? So where do synths, electric guitars and basses as well as other electric instruments fit in? And when do you know you are a virtuoso?
vir·tu·o·so
noun \-ˈō-(ˌ)sō, -(ˌ)zō\

: a person who does something in a very skillful way; especially : a very skillful musician
plural vir·tu·o·sos or vir·tu·o·si
Full Definition of VIRTUOSO
1
: an experimenter or investigator especially in the arts and sciences : savant
2
: one skilled in or having a taste for the fine arts
3
: one who excels in the technique of an art; especially : a highly skilled musical performer (as on the violin)
4
: a person who has great skill at some endeavor <a computer virtuoso>
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/virtuoso

kinda got a chuckle out of number 4 as how it applies to this thread :hihi:

No offense intended but I really do not agree with the people on the street though I am not sure who these people are :shrug:
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.

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enroe wrote:
robojam wrote:
V0RT3X wrote:Seriously..
Really seriously?
But your serious question "how do i become a real musician" can
grow more acute by asking:

:arrow: What does the label "real musician" stand for from the
point of view of the normal man or woman on the street?

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For most people on the street a "real musician" is someone, who
plays an acoustic traditional instrument with virtuosity.
Once I was inflicting my music on my friend. This track came to a passage of solo piano in a more or less virtuosic manner, or at least it sounded like 'significance', through the sort of harmonic vocabulary I used. She remarks: 'Now that is a real musician.' Even as her tastes range from pop R&B to 'House music', in fact at one time fancied herself as a DJ. So she isn't exactly the kind of "elitist" people here detest, but recognizes that distinction somehow. Hmmm...
enroe wrote:For some people on the street the label "real musician" is only given
to somebody who did study music at university.

Vice versa a composer, a loop-tinkerer, a PC home constructor, a
recording engineer or an audio engineer - these are not labelled
"real musicians". That is because everyman cannot see these people
anywhere. They're never on TV, they're not in the concert hall or in
the stadium - and so for everyman they are just not existent.
Why would a 'PC constructor' be labeled a musician anyway? Are engineers now musicians magically or through some sort of technological proximity, vis a vis KVR? I don't know your everyman, but I think my friend's idea of that pianist is wrapped up with composer, even as she didn't seem to profess terrific interest in it before. I don't think the question grew more acute, if anything more diffuse through your 'everyman'.

You just touched on why people drew the line in the sand somewhere along the line, hence the 'joke' of the OP & other posts with that whipping boy.

And who writes these dictionaries? There we get four ways to state one definition. I don't think the meaning of virtuoso is unclear to very many of us here. I think there is an insecurity about it so people make jokes, to have any notion of 'real musician' ought be a shameful thing.

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