KVR Audio

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:05 pm

The sheer range of presets was a nice surprise - especially some by Chris Carter!

Very impressed that this is free, thankyou Eventide.

do_androids_dream · Post by **do_androids_dream** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:15 pm

elassi wrote:
do_androids_dream wrote:The delay module seems to be buggy. Sometimes the delay length section works, sometimes it doesn't. Tried it with all different combinations of tempo sync (which doesn't seem to be working either). Can't put my finger on anything other than randomness in it's operation. This is in reaper btw.
Works like a treat here.

Yep it's a strange one. If I load up a preset with the delay module in use it kick starts it into life and it works as expected but if I load the plugin in it's default state and engage the delay module it's hit and miss whether the delay length parameters work for me. The dials can be moved with the mouse but the delay length doesn't change. Also, moving the dial will not update the numbers beneath and, in reverse, moving the numbers (you can directly 'grab' them and change them with the mouse as well as using the dial) will not update the dial position. Will continue playing... I tend to really try to 'break' plugins for bug testing purposes btw.

tropicalontour · Post by **tropicalontour** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:17 pm

OK, that's weird. iLok account all registered. There's even a license for the Ultrachannel in it, so Eventide must have received my request, but no download links email has arrived. Is this the part of the process that's screwed? I notice other people are waiting around for the download links email as well.

AstralExistence · Post by **AstralExistence** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:22 pm

robotmonkey wrote:
AstralExistence wrote: because im smart and realize that things like this aren't given away for free except under extreme circumstances.
My take is that Eventide probably is in extreme circumstances. They have probably realized that their future in the hardware business is not so bright anymore. But they have probably also realized that their future in the software business is not too bright either.

They had a sale recently, and my guess is, that this was not a big success. Simply because what they offer is not that compelling at all. Their stuff needs the stupid PACE/iLok and their current plugins are lacking in many ways in comparison to competition. Blackhole is easily replaced with Valhalla Shimmer and STW Reflex, H3000 Factory is old and fiddly. Even discounted they are not something that make you scream out of excitement like a little girl.

So they need some exposure and giving away the UltraChannel is a good way to do it. It's basically another channel strip with EQ and Compressor so I guess it would not sell like hotcakes anyway. But it is a good way to show a bit of Eventide's pitch shift and delay algorithms to lure people into taking a look at their more interesting plugins from Anthology II as they become available in native format later. Also by giving a way such a big full-featured plugin they will generate a lot of buzz.

yeah i tried it. i now know whats 'rotten' in denmark. its the plugin itself. its simply not that good. its a jack of all trades master of none. i would absolutely not pay 250 usd for this. i can't stand jack plugins. uninstalled.

elassi · Post by **elassi** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:58 pm

do_androids_dream wrote:Yep it's a strange one. If I load up a preset with the delay module in use it kick starts it into life and it works as expected but if I load the plugin in it's default state and engage the delay module it's hit and miss whether the delay length parameters work for me.

Indeed, tried it with a fresh arrangement in Reaper, too. Loaded Ultrachannel in its initial state (no preset), try to move the delay bar controls... no function. As soon as a preset has been chosen, everything works.

do_androids_dream · Post by **do_androids_dream** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:05 pm

elassi wrote:
do_androids_dream wrote:Yep it's a strange one. If I load up a preset with the delay module in use it kick starts it into life and it works as expected but if I load the plugin in it's default state and engage the delay module it's hit and miss whether the delay length parameters work for me.
Indeed, tried it with a fresh arrangement in Reaper, too. Loaded Ultrachannel in its initial state (no preset), try to move the delay bar controls... no function. As soon as a preset has been chosen, everything works.

I think I can live with that as I'm probably not going to using the delay - just hope it's not indicative of deeper issues. The comps are excellent - some very nice sparkly vibe created. The only free one that compares (been doing some testing on some drum loops this morning) is perhaps Molot and to a certain extent Buzzrooms Grancomp. The combination of the two comps together is pretty killer though.

Photo_G · Post by **Photo_G** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:09 pm

Manual:
http://www.eventide.com/~/media/Files/A ... annel.ashx

do_androids_dream · Post by **do_androids_dream** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:11 pm

AstralExistence wrote:...how good it is compared to say slick eq/tdr comp?

It couldn't be further away from how TDR FBC sounds. It manages to create a really coloured vibe even at very low ratios. Compares (very favourably I might add) to something like Molot or Grancomp for distortion characteristics. Have not used Slick very much yet.

sqigls · Post by **sqigls** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:17 pm

To whom it may concern…
I am using a MacbookPro with a 2.7 i7 processor, OSX 10.8.5 and Ableton Live 9.1.2.
I'm working at 24bit 96kHz
When I load this plugin, it hovers at 6% of my processor. Most of the presets consume about this much.

The knobs and fonts are a bit wack, but yay freebee… thank you Eventide

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:18 pm

AstralExistence wrote:yeah i tried it. i now know whats 'rotten' in denmark. its the plugin itself. its simply not that good. its a jack of all trades master of none. i would absolutely not pay 250 usd for this. i can't stand jack plugins. uninstalled.

you obviously have no frigging idea what a channel strip is.

AstralExistence · Post by **AstralExistence** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:27 pm

murnau wrote:
AstralExistence wrote:yeah i tried it. i now know whats 'rotten' in denmark. its the plugin itself. its simply not that good. its a jack of all trades master of none. i would absolutely not pay 250 usd for this. i can't stand jack plugins. uninstalled.
you obviously have no frigging idea what a channel strip is.

of course i do. but that's not how i work. if you choose to take the easy way out by using a jack of all trades, do it all, and do it not as good as separate dedicated plugins. then good for you.

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:39 pm

AstralExistence wrote:
murnau wrote:
AstralExistence wrote:yeah i tried it. i now know whats 'rotten' in denmark. its the plugin itself. its simply not that good. its a jack of all trades master of none. i would absolutely not pay 250 usd for this. i can't stand jack plugins. uninstalled.
you obviously have no frigging idea what a channel strip is.
of course i do. but that's not how i work. if you choose to take the easy way out by using a jack of all trades, do it all, and do it not as good as separate dedicated plugins. then good for you.

you literally criticize that a channel strip is a channel strip. of course with individual plugins and building your own channel strip to say so the results (in the right hands) are way better but this is in no way the point here.

do_androids_dream · Post by **do_androids_dream** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:47 pm

AstralExistence wrote:
murnau wrote:
AstralExistence wrote:yeah i tried it. i now know whats 'rotten' in denmark. its the plugin itself. its simply not that good. its a jack of all trades master of none. i would absolutely not pay 250 usd for this. i can't stand jack plugins. uninstalled.
you obviously have no frigging idea what a channel strip is.
of course i do. but that's not how i work. if you choose to take the easy way out by using a jack of all trades, do it all, and do it not as good as separate dedicated plugins. then good for you.

But the individual components of this channel strip (and that's what a channel strip essentially is - a collection of different tools) are all excellent quality. Imo (so far as I have used it) better than some of the best freeware out there. Not sure what you mean by the easy way out - you still have to use your skill to actually do something good with it - doesn't matter if your eq and comp are in the same plugin or separate plugins. What's lovely about Ultra Channel is that you can drag 'n drop the modules into a different order. I'm getting some beautiful results with one comp into the eq into the other comp. Very flexible indeed. The only downer is that the sidechain option doesn't work in the windows VST version.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:50 pm

murnau wrote:
AstralExistence wrote:
murnau wrote:
AstralExistence wrote:yeah i tried it. i now know whats 'rotten' in denmark. its the plugin itself. its simply not that good. its a jack of all trades master of none. i would absolutely not pay 250 usd for this. i can't stand jack plugins. uninstalled.
you obviously have no frigging idea what a channel strip is.
of course i do. but that's not how i work. if you choose to take the easy way out by using a jack of all trades, do it all, and do it not as good as separate dedicated plugins. then good for you.
you literally criticize that a channel strip is a channel strip.

well, yes. but you have to admit it was already a 'suspicious' free channel strip that clearly wasnt free, and very obviously had some dubious ulterior motive behind it. if confirmation bias doesnt positively demand that that gets dismissed as poor, then confirmation bias just isnt doing its job properly.

AstralExistence · Post by **AstralExistence** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:02 pm

murnau wrote: you literally criticize that a channel strip is a channel strip. of course with individual plugins and building your own channel strip to say so the results (in the right hands) are way better but this is in no way the point here.

in the words of sheldon cooper from the big bang theory, "excuse me, in a world that already includes a big boy, why would i settle for something LIKE a big boy."

Eventide UltraChannel Native plug-in for Free