The B2 demo?Shangsean wrote:B2 is running fine for me in Reaper Win8 64 bit.
2CAudio B2: Full Body. Maximum Attitude.
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Now you're asking me to do unpaid work for you, and that's not polite or pleasant of you either. I don't work for free. Find someone who does, hire people to help you test, or ignore this issue and see what that does for your business.Galbanum wrote:As for your question, we don't generally have other reports about issues with Reaper so it seems it could be an install issue. Could you redownload, unzip using your OS's built-in unzip tool -- NOT a third party unzip tool, if on OSX, try manually setting permissions to the 2CAudio folder as deceived here:
http://2caudio.com/support/faq#_installation
...then rerun the installer. Does the issue persist?
Are you using mono tracks? Does is issue happen on stereo tracks?
Anyone else have any issues at all with Reaper? Anything?
(PS: it is now appoximately 7AM on a Sunday now as I write this... probably that is a step or two above "unresponsive"?)
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- 12038 posts since 12 May, 2008
This is how support works. They give steps for you to try and narrow down the issue. Are you expecting him to come to your house to figure out what the problem is on your system?BachRules wrote:Now you're asking me to do unpaid work for you, and that's not polite or pleasant of you either. I don't work for free. Find someone who does, hire people to help you test, or ignore this issue and see what that does for your business.Galbanum wrote:As for your question, we don't generally have other reports about issues with Reaper so it seems it could be an install issue. Could you redownload, unzip using your OS's built-in unzip tool -- NOT a third party unzip tool, if on OSX, try manually setting permissions to the 2CAudio folder as deceived here:
http://2caudio.com/support/faq#_installation
...then rerun the installer. Does the issue persist?
Are you using mono tracks? Does is issue happen on stereo tracks?
Anyone else have any issues at all with Reaper? Anything?
(PS: it is now appoximately 7AM on a Sunday now as I write this... probably that is a step or two above "unresponsive"?)
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- 37412 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
It sounds like that might be a demo limitation not a bug:BachRules wrote:After I deleted the demo and re-installed, if I put B2 on a track, loaded a track, took B2 offline, and brought it back online, the preset was gone and all B2 settings back to square-one.
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2C-B2 Demo Version Limitations
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1) Only 44.1 and 48 kHz sample rates are supported
2) No parameters info is published to the Host software. So plug-in state will not be saved in the host software project
3) No external parameters control is supported. So no parameter automation and no control surfaces support
4) Presets can be saved but cannot be loaded (only factory preset can be loaded)
5) One session time is limited to 30 minutes. you need to re-load the plug-in to continue evaluation
6) No multiple instances allowed. You can run only one instance of plug-in in your host software
7) The total in-use plug-in evaluation time is limited to 40 hours
NO AUDIO DROP-OUTS, NO NOISE MIXED. PURE AUDIOPHILE DELIGHT.
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It works better when the customer has already handed his money over, can't get it back, and is desperate.Echoes in the Attic wrote:This is how support works. They give steps for you to try and narrow down the issue. Are you expecting him to come to your house to figure out what the problem is on your system?
I'm done with charity work for software developers. I helped Cakewalk debug Sonar while Sonar fanboys attacked me left and right for my blasphemy of reporting a bug in Sonar. I helped EWQL debug Spaces while EWQL fanboys attacked me for similar blasphemy. Last week I helped a different company, and they actually paid me for the hours I worked for them, and that is how it should work; and that's not in the future between 2CAudio and me, so 2CAudio are on their own on this one.
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- 11315 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
aMUSEd wrote:It sounds like that might be a demo limitation not a bug:BachRules wrote:After I deleted the demo and re-installed, if I put B2 on a track, loaded a track, took B2 offline, and brought it back online, the preset was gone and all B2 settings back to square-one.
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2C-B2 Demo Version Limitations
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1) Only 44.1 and 48 kHz sample rates are supported
2) No parameters info is published to the Host software. So plug-in state will not be saved in the host software project
3) No external parameters control is supported. So no parameter automation and no control surfaces support
4) Presets can be saved but cannot be loaded (only factory preset can be loaded)
5) One session time is limited to 30 minutes. you need to re-load the plug-in to continue evaluation
6) No multiple instances allowed. You can run only one instance of plug-in in your host software
7) The total in-use plug-in evaluation time is limited to 40 hours
NO AUDIO DROP-OUTS, NO NOISE MIXED. PURE AUDIOPHILE DELIGHT.
Wow. I think devs deserve metals for putting up with the types of nonsense they have to when providing support.
Why would someone create a solid project using a demo of a plugin without at least reading the restrictions of the demo?
AND...
Then lash out at the developer because they didn't bother to read the restrictions of the demo.
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I agree that accounts for the parameter resets; thanks for pointing that out. However, it doesn't begin to account for why I couldn't remove this effect from my track without it crashing Reaper.aMUSEd wrote:It sounds like that might be a demo limitation not a bug:... 2) No parameters info is published to the Host software. So plug-in state will not be saved in the host software project...
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- 11315 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
I hate to break it to you, but if you're getting attacked this much, there's a chance you've done something wrong.BachRules wrote:It works better when the customer has already handed his money over, can't get it back, and is a desperate.Echoes in the Attic wrote:This is how support works. They give steps for you to try and narrow down the issue. Are you expecting him to come to your house to figure out what the problem is on your system?
I'm done with charity work for software developers. I helped Cakewalk debug Sonar while Sonar fanboys attacked me left and right for my blasphemy of reporting a bug in Sonar. I helped EWQL debug Spaces while EWQL fanboys attacked me for similar blasphemy. Last week I helped a different company, and they actually paid me for the hours I worked for them, and that is how it should work; and that's not in the future between 2CAudio and me, so 2CAudio are on their own on this one.
In this case, it seems you've spotted a demo restriction you were ignorant of because you didn't read the limitations. Not a bug, but a demo limitation.
For the record I use B2 in Reaper among several hosts without a problems. It works as advertised and It recalls presets (because it's the full version, not a demo).
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Cool. If I get back into commercial development and I produce some crap, I'll market it to you since you'd make a useful fanboy.elxsound wrote:I think devs deserve metals for putting up with the types of nonsense they have to when providing support.
Why would someone create a solid project using a demo of a plugin without at least reading the restrictions of the demo?
AND...
Then lash out at the developer because they didn't bother to read the restrictions of the demo.
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- 11315 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
That would be a Reaper issue, not a 2CAudio issue.BachRules wrote:I agree that accounts for the parameter resets; thanks for pointing that out. However, it doesn't begin to account for why I couldn't remove this effect from my track without it crashing Reaper.aMUSEd wrote:It sounds like that might be a demo limitation not a bug:... 2) No parameters info is published to the Host software. So plug-in state will not be saved in the host software project...
Once you delete the plugin from your folder, the way Reaper recalls the plugin that no longer exists is independent of any other 3rd party plugin developer. So try your support request there.
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Nonsense. No other plug-in crashes Reaper when you simply remove it from a track.elxsound wrote:That would be a Reaper issue, not a 2CAudio issue.BachRules wrote:I agree that accounts for the parameter resets; thanks for pointing that out. However, it doesn't begin to account for why I couldn't remove this effect from my track without it crashing Reaper.aMUSEd wrote:It sounds like that might be a demo limitation not a bug:... 2) No parameters info is published to the Host software. So plug-in state will not be saved in the host software project...
Once you delete the plugin from your folder, the way Reaper recalls the plugin that no longer exists is independent of any other 3rd party plugin developer. So try your support request there.
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- 11315 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
I take you call many people fanboys. Mainly people who provide corrections to your mistakes.BachRules wrote:Cool. If I get back into commercial development and I produce some crap, I'll market it to you since you'd make a useful fanboy.elxsound wrote:I think devs deserve metals for putting up with the types of nonsense they have to when providing support.
Why would someone create a solid project using a demo of a plugin without at least reading the restrictions of the demo?
AND...
Then lash out at the developer because they didn't bother to read the restrictions of the demo.
Why not man-up, since it was your error.
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- 11315 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
Have you deleted the plugin completely and any corresponding plugin dependent folders?BachRules wrote:Nonsense. No other plug-in crashes Reaper when you simply remove it from a track.elxsound wrote:That would be a Reaper issue, not a 2CAudio issue.BachRules wrote:I agree that accounts for the parameter resets; thanks for pointing that out. However, it doesn't begin to account for why I couldn't remove this effect from my track without it crashing Reaper.aMUSEd wrote:It sounds like that might be a demo limitation not a bug:... 2) No parameters info is published to the Host software. So plug-in state will not be saved in the host software project...
Once you delete the plugin from your folder, the way Reaper recalls the plugin that no longer exists is independent of any other 3rd party plugin developer. So try your support request there.
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There's also the fact that I did nothing wrong, all the bugs I reported were later acknowledged by the respective developers, and in the meantime their stupid fanboys did their thing.elxsound wrote:I hate to break it to you, but if you're getting attacked this much, there's a chance you've done something wrong.BachRules wrote:I'm done with charity work for software developers. I helped Cakewalk debug Sonar while Sonar fanboys attacked me left and right for my blasphemy of reporting a bug in Sonar. I helped EWQL debug Spaces while EWQL fanboys attacked me for similar blasphemy. Last week I helped a different company, and they actually paid me for the hours I worked for them, and that is how it should work; and that's not in the future between 2CAudio and me, so 2CAudio are on their own on this one.
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- 11315 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
Cool.BachRules wrote:There's also the chance that I did nothing wrong, all the bugs I reported were later acknowledged by the respective developers, and in the meantime their stupid fanboys did their thing.elxsound wrote:I hate to break it to you, but if you're getting attacked this much, there's a chance you've done something wrong.
Let's take it at face value then. Back then, you were right and they were wrong. You were attacked by fanboys.
Now...
You made a mistake regarding the demo limitations and now you want to your reaper project to work without B2.
Right?
Have you deleted the plugin and any plugin dependent folders (presets, etc...)? Are you on Mac or PC?
