I already did send an email yesterday incl. Cubase log.Big Tick wrote:It won't hurtSend away please...
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Rhino 2 pre-release for registered users - it's here
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- KVRist
- 318 posts since 3 Nov, 2002
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3388 posts since 29 May, 2001 from New York, NY
OK. Got the crash too. Unfortunately it only happens in the release build, and looks quite random. I'm 99% sure it happens when switching to a preset that uses external wavs, though. I need to find out which one...
Edit - I think I nailed it, together with the problem with bad sounding presets Check your PM, I've send a few of you a link to the corrected version. It'll go public in a few days, as I wouldn't want to release a build worse than the previous one 
'Tick
Edit - I think I nailed it, together with the problem with bad sounding presets
Check your PM, I've send a few of you a link to the corrected version. It'll go public in a few days, as I wouldn't want to release a build worse than the previous one 'Tick
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- KVRAF
- 2217 posts since 15 Jul, 2003
you de man, Tick
you de man
thanks for the great and incredibly fast response
wish i could debug problems that fast
side by side I can't tell the difference in any presets I tried.
i never got that crash and don't expect to. I switched from Alaska preset to a bunch of other while playing and worked fine so far
great work
you de man
thanks for the great and incredibly fast response
wish i could debug problems that fast
side by side I can't tell the difference in any presets I tried.
i never got that crash and don't expect to. I switched from Alaska preset to a bunch of other while playing and worked fine so far
great work
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- KVRAF
- 2875 posts since 28 Jan, 2004 from Da Nang, Vietnam
good things:
Sounds great as always.
Oscillator drag & drop is a BIG plus.
Seems like drag points on envelopes are easier to hit. Much friendlier than 1.0.
I really like the new patch management scheme.
New additive editor is a big improvement over the old one.
less good things:
Hard to trace FM relationships in mod matrix without a grid.
Text readability on buttons in new skin isn't good.
Position of sliders in new skin is ambiguous. 3 dimensionality isn't very convincing.
Dragging within the additive editor behaves unintuitively. If I drag up a partial and then mouse left or right I can't pull up similar values for neighboring partials. It just behaves oddly.
Overall I like all the new features a lot and like the skin less than the 1.0 version but it's definitely a big positive step.
Having had a chance to play around with FM7 a lot more after buying Komplete 2 I feel like the FM part of FM7 is so much easier to use than Rhino's at this point that I don't even mess with the FM stuff in Rhino. Rhino's got enough other stuff in it to make it worthwhile anyway.
Sounds great as always.
Oscillator drag & drop is a BIG plus.
Seems like drag points on envelopes are easier to hit. Much friendlier than 1.0.
I really like the new patch management scheme.
New additive editor is a big improvement over the old one.
less good things:
Hard to trace FM relationships in mod matrix without a grid.
Text readability on buttons in new skin isn't good.
Position of sliders in new skin is ambiguous. 3 dimensionality isn't very convincing.
Dragging within the additive editor behaves unintuitively. If I drag up a partial and then mouse left or right I can't pull up similar values for neighboring partials. It just behaves oddly.
Overall I like all the new features a lot and like the skin less than the 1.0 version but it's definitely a big positive step.
Having had a chance to play around with FM7 a lot more after buying Komplete 2 I feel like the FM part of FM7 is so much easier to use than Rhino's at this point that I don't even mess with the FM stuff in Rhino. Rhino's got enough other stuff in it to make it worthwhile anyway.
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- KVRist
- 234 posts since 29 Mar, 2002 from Germany
Hi Tick,
I just have an idea for my MIDI-CC problem: Today it's the other way round, it works in Rhino2 bot not in Rhino1 anymore. Perhaps there is a mismatch with the parallel installation in two folders.
So would it be a good idea, if I remove the Rhino1 folder and install Rhino2 into a new folder with the same old name, rename the .dll back to the old name, that older projects will find Rhino2 with the old name and load the old preset? Confusing, I know!
Btw I also would like to see a grid in the matrix!
Regards Michael
I just have an idea for my MIDI-CC problem: Today it's the other way round, it works in Rhino2 bot not in Rhino1 anymore. Perhaps there is a mismatch with the parallel installation in two folders.
So would it be a good idea, if I remove the Rhino1 folder and install Rhino2 into a new folder with the same old name, rename the .dll back to the old name, that older projects will find Rhino2 with the old name and load the old preset? Confusing, I know!
Btw I also would like to see a grid in the matrix!
Regards Michael
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- KVRist
- 68 posts since 26 Apr, 2003 from Denmark
Hey Tick
Thanks for the quick fix SP1.
The sound is just perfect now
Great
I've not had any crash when changing presets - so here I can't be of much help.
All the best
Bo
I really like Rhino 2
Thanks for the quick fix SP1.
The sound is just perfect now
Great I've not had any crash when changing presets - so here I can't be of much help.
All the best
Bo
I really like Rhino 2
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- KVRAF
- 19817 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
I've been trying to break SP1 for the last couple of hours and can't.She's working perfectly here.No crash during patch change.Tried importing DX7 sysex,patch programming from scratch,sequencing in both FL Studio and Orion Platinum etc and not a hitch.I'll keep working with her for a while longer today and report back any news but as of right now I can't find anything wrong.Would still like a bit more volume but I can live with it as is. 
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3388 posts since 29 May, 2001 from New York, NY
Folks,
Since everybody seems happy with it, the SP1 for the Rhino 2 prerelease is now available. This fixes:
- the random crashes when switching presets
- the difference in sound with the older versions
- the corruption of some presets
- the collision of synth ID when used together with the older version
The SP1 zip contains the .exe and .dll files, that replace the Rhino2 ones.
Enjoy,
'Tick
PS. If you've downloaded SP1 yesterday for testing purposes please grab it again, as this one includes the fix for synth ID's collisions.
Since everybody seems happy with it, the SP1 for the Rhino 2 prerelease is now available. This fixes:
- the random crashes when switching presets
- the difference in sound with the older versions
- the corruption of some presets
- the collision of synth ID when used together with the older version
The SP1 zip contains the .exe and .dll files, that replace the Rhino2 ones.
Enjoy,
'Tick
PS. If you've downloaded SP1 yesterday for testing purposes please grab it again, as this one includes the fix for synth ID's collisions.
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- KVRist
- 106 posts since 4 Aug, 2003 from UK
DirectiXer is happy with 1.09 and 2 now
you know, i think I liked the sound of the first prerelease better - less 'metallic' somehow - not a criticism, just trying to find a word to describe the difference.....
you know, i think I liked the sound of the first prerelease better - less 'metallic' somehow - not a criticism, just trying to find a word to describe the difference.....
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3388 posts since 29 May, 2001 from New York, NY
The first prerelease had all FM levels divided by 2. So it's quite easy to get that sound, just lower everything in the FM matrix if the FM scaling is set to linear. If it isn't, you can lower the level of each oscillator level env, and increase the main output level.
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- KVRist
- 318 posts since 3 Nov, 2002
Tick, the SP does it for me, I did not yet test 100% of all parameters but after some hours of playing and editing I didn´t have any crash or abnormal CPU spike. Also in R2 the preset management is wondeful, thanx for that.
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Induljon a banzáj!
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3388 posts since 29 May, 2001 from New York, NY
Thanks. Any suggestions for making the preset management part even better are welcome (how about a search in the preset comments ? or keywords ?)
'Tick
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35438 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Drag and drop between banks?
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRist
- 143 posts since 28 Oct, 2002
As I already mentioned earlier, i'd find it useful if a preset folder (e.g. Bass) unfolds automatically if you hold a dragged preset over it, so you can see the sub folders (similar to the windows explorer).Big Tick wrote:Thanks. Any suggestions for making the preset management part even better are welcome (how about a search in the preset comments ? or keywords ?)
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