KVR Audio

Ozpeter · Post by **Ozpeter** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:13 am

While rummaging around on another matter I came across http://www.adobe.com/products/tryadobe/ ... product=92 which says....

"Adobe Audition 1.5 tryout

Adobe Audition 1.5 ™ software is a professional audio editing environment. Designed for demanding audio and video professionals, Adobe Audition 1.5 offers advanced audio mixing, editing, and effects processing capabilities. Its flexible workflow, combined with exceptional ease of use and precise tools, gives you the power to create rich, nuanced audio of the highest possible quality.

The Adobe Audition 1.5 tryout includes all the features of the full version with the exception of the trial version of discWelder BRONZE from Minnetonka Audio Software, sample sessions, and more than 5,000 royalty-free loops. The Adobe Audition 1.5 tryout expires 30 days from the first time you open the application."

Mike from reFX · Post by **Mike from reFX** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:12 pm

Does anybody know if 1.5 contains a *real* looper (in the sample editor, not in the project thingy)?

Ford Prefect · Post by **Ford Prefect** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:07 pm

Michael Kleps from reFX wrote:Does anybody know if 1.5 contains a *real* looper (in the sample editor, not in the project thingy)?

What do you mean by "not in the project thingy"?
Here's a manual quote...is this what you're asking(minus the last bit)?

Working with loops is typically a three step process, in which you select part of a waveform, specify its properties in Edit View, and then use the resulting loop in compositions in Multitrack View

...and the permanent properties being loop, one shot, number of beats, tempo, key, find nearest, and stretch method...

Mike from reFX · Post by **Mike from reFX** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 4:11 pm

I mean a *graphical* way of setting the loop start and loop end and being able to hear that loop from within the sample-editor.

I want to use Audition as a replacement for Wavelab (which gets MUCH too bloated for my taste).

Anybody got a good recommedation for a simple, but powerful sample editor?

Cheers,
Mike

Sicklecell666 · Post by **Sicklecell666** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 4:15 pm

what about Audacity? Can't beat the price tag on that one..

Mike from reFX · Post by **Mike from reFX** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 4:41 pm

Audacity can't loop at all...

bastien · Post by **bastien** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 4:43 pm

I thought the loop points were copied over to that weird 'sampler' dialog box in Audition (at work, don't have it to hand). It not ideal, but not totally bad...

Mike from reFX · Post by **Mike from reFX** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 4:47 pm

OK, let me explain what I want:

I want to edit the loop graphicaly, zoom up to 1/64 sample (or even closer) and and repeat the loop over and over to find perfect loops etc.

A real old school sample-editor. Why can't Audition (which was CoolEdit) provide that functionality? Didn't CoolEdit contain it already? Was it kicked out afterwards? To what end?

Dandruff · Post by **Dandruff** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 5:13 pm

yes that's possible. just click the loop-button in the transport-control-section.

Mike from reFX · Post by **Mike from reFX** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 5:16 pm

And then you can edit the loop points graphicaly for the current sample and save the loop points as markers in e.g. an AIF file?

Is this a new feature in 1.5? I bought 1.0 (I should have downloaded the demo first) and I can guarantee you that 1.0 does not have a sample-loop editor of any kind.

bitcrusher · Post by **bitcrusher** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 5:58 pm

Is this a new feature in 1.5? I bought 1.0 (I should have downloaded the demo first) and I can guarantee you that 1.0 does not have a sample-loop editor of any kind.

view-> wave properties
sampler tab
click add sampler loop

I guess there are no guarantees

THK · Post by **THK** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 6:42 pm

Michael Kleps from reFX wrote:Audacity can't loop at all...

Audacity can play loops (shift+click), but i don't know if it can save loop points.
The most easy to use loop editor i found is the free TWE from Yamaha:
http://www.yamaha.co.jp/product/syndtm/ ... r.html#twe

Dandruff · Post by **Dandruff** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 7:00 pm

Michael Kleps from reFX wrote:And then you can edit the loop points graphicaly for the current sample and save the loop points as markers in e.g. an AIF file?

yes. the markers are called cues in audition. no new feature in 1.5. all this stuff is available in 1.0 ...

kilroy · Post by **kilroy** » Fri Jun 25, 2004 1:13 am

SoundForge will do what you want, but if you are *just* interested in editing loops this might be overkill.

Good editor none the less.

Mike from reFX · Post by **Mike from reFX** » Fri Jun 25, 2004 11:47 am

bitcrusher wrote:
Is this a new feature in 1.5? I bought 1.0 (I should have downloaded the demo first) and I can guarantee you that 1.0 does not have a sample-loop editor of any kind.
view-> wave properties
sampler tab
click add sampler loop

I guess there are no guarantees

Sigh... OK, load in any WAV or AIF file (which has a loop embeded into it) into Audition. Do you see[/b] the loop? No? Damn... Do you hear the loop? No? Damn... Can you actually switch Audition into loop mode, so the sample is played from the very start to the loopend and then restarting at loopstart? No? Damn...

Guys, I might overlooked something here or there, but trust me, I have looked very closely because I wanted to use a simpler tool than Wavelab, but Audition is simply not useable in the context of creating multi-samples for samplers. It seems it was not designed with this kind of functionality in mind. Very strange I think, cause CoolEdit was applauded at it's time of being "the" sample editor. I can't see why that was if that kind of most basic functionality is missing. Nowadays every program having in the slightest to do with audio wants to be a sequencer/tracker and plays back time stretched samples. Guess I have to use Wavelab or even HALion to do the most basic things...

Cheers,
Mike

Audition 1.5 (with VST support) tryout now available