Toned: LVC-Audio Support/Questions
- KVRian
- 509 posts since 1 May, 2006 from lancaster, pa
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- KVRist
- 436 posts since 26 Jul, 2012 from Prague, czech republic
was used to bootsy eq for analog saturation on the master bus but it doesnt work on mac so i welcome your plugin!
but it takes too much cpu...
I am on old intel dual core and osx 10.6.8 and Toned takes about 40precent of cpu inside the Renoise... So i use it really just in mastering situation for now.
I am on old intel dual core and osx 10.6.8 and Toned takes about 40precent of cpu inside the Renoise... So i use it really just in mastering situation for now.
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- KVRist
- 440 posts since 22 Feb, 2014
I love this plug in. Subtle but beautiful. It helps the drums pop out a little more and has a smooth effect on vocals.
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- KVRist
- 153 posts since 21 Apr, 2009
I like what it does to the high freq, no problem in FL Studio so far.
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- KVRian
- 1223 posts since 11 Aug, 2004 from France
I have great difficulties to hear the result of the Drive knob operation. Can you explain a little how it behaves ? The only not subtle thing I got from it was when the Drive and the input knobs where put at maximum, and it was some strange clicks 
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 509 posts since 1 May, 2006 from lancaster, pa
The saturation levels of Toned are very low in comparison to other saturation plugins. When the Drive is set to 0 dB, the THD is only about -88 dB. Raising the Drive to the maximum of 15 dB raises the THD to around -28 dB. Of course, you can also do what you did by increasing the input gain. This will raise the distortion levels even higher. I haven't done a lot of extensive testing, but other plugins typically start with saturation levels above the level of Toned, and can increase to well beyond 0 dB THD.Wolfen666 wrote:I have great difficulties to hear the result of the Drive knob operation. Can you explain a little how it behaves ? The only not subtle thing I got from it was when the Drive and the input knobs where put at maximum, and it was some strange clicks
The problem, as you found, is that increasing the saturation level to a "very high" amount sometimes causes the saturation to begin to oscillate (I am sure there is a better and more technical term for this, but this is how I think of it). At some point, and depending on the math used to create the saturation, gain starts going crazy.
For Toned, the saturation is applied to different frequencies at differing amounts. In particular, low bass frequencies are saturated more than higher frequencies. When the saturation is pushed, the bass can start to clip and make other weird sounds. This is very dependent on the source material.
I have also found that the audible effects of Toned are highly dependent on your monitoring system. With ear buds, I don't think I could A/B the difference. With better headphones, the difference is more audible. With my full A/D interface, amp, monitor setup, the differences are even more clear.
That being said, I think that everything still remains subtle. Toned isn't going to replace a more traditional-style saturation plugin.
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- KVRian
- 1223 posts since 11 Aug, 2004 from France
