Good VSTs for making music similar to Klaus Schulze, TD etc.?

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artao wrote: Are you claiming the Arturia Moog Modular V isn't a "pro sound" .. whatever that means?
I've got Modular V. It sounds GREAT!!! And I haven't found a review that says otherwise.
Modular V is a capable digital representation of the featureset. It can make some enjoyable sounds (as with most any synth today)... but it sounds like an older softsynth and misses the dynamic character and vitality of an actual analogue synth. For more credible digital efforts at the analogue sound see Diva, Monark and a few others...

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A link which is of course very important to read: the list which is on Klaus Schulze's website:

Klaus Schulze's Instruments

Don't forget to take a look at his studio photos section at the bottom of the page. Or even better... directly here:
http://www.klaus-schulze.com/photos/

And on the forum of the TD website there was a huge thread that I followed which was called "What instruments?", but I don't find it again anymore...

And are there KVR members who know that Jean-Michel Jarre and Tangerine Dream seem to have met in February 2014? (see this picture from the Berlin TV)
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And the end of the text of this page talks about a project of a megaconcert together...
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Didn't know Edgards accident was that evil.

AFAIK the Jarre/TD concert was planned, but will not be realized.

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kx77free wrote:I see that some of you know KS's music very well...
How do you rate Berlin School du jour?

There is a lot of cool labels out there like Syng@te, Groove Unlimited, DiN, AD Music that put out this style of music :tu:

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Chris-S wrote:Didn't know Edgards accident was that evil.

AFAIK the Jarre/TD concert was planned, but will not be realized.
They would have finished by disagreeing? Both Edgar Froese and Jean-Michel Jarre are strong characters and quite tough...

Or would it be an incompatibility between their respective contracts to their producers?
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Hi,

I believe that we can have the Berlin school spirit with any instruments, not only with VA but with what you want!
Sure it's more easy if you use VA based on classic VCO,VCF,VCA and monophonic synths for the leads but you will use your experience and learning the hazard of sound mixing between each layers, the analog sequencing, the sync with the tempo and the delay fx...
You must have the joy to create even if it's just a note played because all is in the sound, not specially in the composition and avoid the way of the preset because the majority of them are crappy.
For example, I done my instruments for my pleasure not for the money and the glory, just because I know that I can do it and that will solve a lot of hardware limits (polyphony, studio place, maintenance, etc...) even if the hardware is better but who can pay hardware like KS or JMJ studio...

I recently done some tracks, one of them is more KS like. All tracks are done with my cheap Cubase 5 essential which I use for its great Midi functions.
The main inconvenient of this kind of software is the track summation of the audio engine which done a poor result if you use a lot of VA with rich sounds like strings or pads with a lot reverb fx. I believe that I may have a better result if I mixed each instrument on analog mixing console by used an audio interface with multi xlr outputs.

Anyway the final encoding in Youtube kills all!

Just do it:
Another KS like, the first part is based on the strings and following by a classic Moog lead with filter resonance fx in background.
I used 3 reverbs, 2 TAL for one of the string tracks and also for the drum kick in background. For the global reverb I used the Mverb and the GlaceVerb.
The main drums are based on the snares of my old SF2 drum set, played with a Kx-PolyMod. One Kx-PolyM-CSE is for the bass sequencing and another Kx-PolyMod is for the "Moog" lead on the second part (with in insert a flanger fx of MeldaProduction). All other tracks use a poly Kx-Synth-x16 V5.


Dance on the clouds:
Another track based on the Kx-PolyM-CSE.


Nemo's dreams:
I read the book of Jules Verne "Vingt mille lieues sous les mers" (Twenty thousand leagues under the sea) and this one inspired me about this poetic and metallic track.
All is done with the last Kx-Modulad.
I recently found the reverb " Glaceverb" of DASAMPLE which is good and free.

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+1 for the KX77 synths. Some of the best VA's out there ... and they're free. For TD style sequences check out ClockWOrK from WOK.

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It's such a broad question really, but for their "driving" sequences a'la Phaedra, Rubycon, and Ricochet (to name a few) you need the Moog Modular sound, and preferably a Moog 960 style sequencer as a lot comes from "playing" the skip live afaik. In software, I guess that Arturia Modular V, u-he Diva, or NI Monark would be a good place to start.

One important "feature" of the Moog Modular (also carried through to the Minimoog) was the CP3 mixer. What's unique with that mixer is that when you go over 50% in volume, the signal starts to distort/saturate, and this would give a very special tone, esp when combining two, or more oscillators.

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I wonder which (new) synths would be mentioned today...

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martinjuenke wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:35 pm I wonder which (new) synths would be mentioned today...
Lots of synths would be suitable... today, I would use Bazille, Plasmonic and a Sampler (maybe Bitwig Sampler) plus various FX...

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martinjuenke wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:35 pm I wonder which (new) synths would be mentioned today...
KX synths are still great for this type of music.
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i always hate threads like this where an OP thinks that buying or using a product is going to make them suddenly an artist who can play like they've put in 50,000 hours of practice and hard work. Happens all the time on reddit and everywhere else too i imagine.

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I don't think that's the whole equation. Let's imagine someone wants to recreate a Moog sound. He can use a synth like Sylenth1 then, spend a lot of work to get the sound right, EQ it to make it closer etc. Or he can just grab a good Minimoog emulation, and he's close by default, when he has enough skills to recreate the sound of a relatively simple synth.

I'd always go for the latter, if I can.

Also, your interpretation of the actual request might be off (actually... I'm sure it's off). Sounds to me as if he was after exactly the thing I described, emulations of the original gear. Not after a one click magical cure to make him as good as some people who do the stuff for all their life.

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