Yeah I know about that krucial. It's annoying to no end. I just can't use Reason like that. When editing I want to hit the spacebar, sequencer stops, hit the spacebar, cursor goes back to the beginning of the bar and starts playback from there. Every other DAW has this option. I can't imagine why Reason doesn't have this. Thanks for your suggestion though.krucial wrote:Have you tried "Shift-Return". Once to stop, twice to go back to the beginning.
Orbit-50 wrote:Hey thanks for the advice jerkoff! It's obvious that you're a pro because you like do unnecessary work. I'll consider trying to impress you by doing the same one day, but for now I really don't feel like doing that. Do you even know what you're talking about? The way your post was all over the place reminds of this co worker that was a long time drunk that used to send me texts. You need to lay off the booze my good man.tonkatodd wrote:Just click the stop button twice to return to zero and that can mapped to a controller so you can get a midi controller that's attached to your pinkie and that way you barely have to move. The laughable whinging over an announcement and mostly from douche bags that don't even use Reason. Personally $129 isn't much money and most companies charge for upgrades, That's how they are able to operate or they just end up bloating the software with demos I.e Flstudio.Orbit-50 wrote:Definitely won't be upgrading. After all the love I was trying to feel for Reason, I fired up the Reason 7.1 demo and they still haven't added a "cursor return to start position on stop" option when hitting the spacebar like every single other DAW has. It's a mandatory option. I wanted to put my fist through the computer after using it for 5 minutes of reaching over for the keypad to hit the 0 key in go back to the beginning of the bar every single time. I could use the mouse every single time also but it's an extra step that's completely annoying. It's the most retarded thing I've ever seen in a DAW. I don't know how the hell anybody uses it like this. This renders the sequencer completely useless for me. I just saved 129.00! Thank you Propellerheads!
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Where in this thread did I whine about $129.00. Again, all over the place. Your perception seems to be totally f**ked up. Again, lay off the booze, drugs or whatever you're doing. You don't seem to have any comprehension of what others are actually saying. Sad.tonkatodd wrote:I am a pro and I make a good living from sound which is why I don't whinge about $129. But really if you are so lazy that you can't reach over the keyboard to press 0 then you really need to find another hobby....like sleeping or getting a nurse to feed you.
"I just saved 129.00! Thank you Propellerheads!". And I don't drink or do any substances. How are you writing these posts? Your hands must be so tired you precious wee thing.Orbit-50 wrote:Where in this thread did I whine about $129.00. Again, all over the place. Your perception seems to be totally f**ked up. Again, lay off the booze, drugs or whatever you're doing. You don't seem to have any comprehension of what others are actually saying. Sad.tonkatodd wrote:I am a pro and I make a good living from sound which is why I don't whinge about $129. But really if you are so lazy that you can't reach over the keyboard to press 0 then you really need to find another hobby....like sleeping or getting a nurse to feed you.
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Tren wrote:Reason 8 is now 3 versions later than Reason 5 and yet it's not the refined advancement Reason 5 was over Reason 2. Yes we've got Audio and the SSL rack, but these feel like something slapped onto the side of the original Reason rack concept rather than something deeply integrated and integral to the workflow. The SSL mixer console should be an optional patch in, rather than something all instruments automatically patch through (and not just that but the cabling on the back of the rack should visibly plug into the SSL; currently these virtual cables are invisible!). Also you still can't create Combinators within Combinators (something which makes the rack look really messy, given the SSL patch through Mix rack unit is essentially a combinator you can't put your own combinators inside of - it's hard to collapse a whole channel easily in the rack!).
We've still got all the original artwork on the rack units, designed for 800x600 resolution. Making the rack horizontally scrolling does not remedy that these look dated, and flattening other GUI elements around them makes them look even more so.
Reason has become too complicated and not smooth enough to work with and these changes to the browser seem to acknowledge that. They should really start over and rebuild from scratch the perfect DAW, fully integrated together mixing and tweaking; rather than these newer Record elements tacked onto the old rack concept but not sticking to the same rules between them. It still just feels like they've pushed different DAW projects together and not got the continuity a true world class program should have and that all their past efforts before Record had.
IMHO.
I totally agree with you, and I have many a time wondered why Propellerheads changed from the pursuit of making a virtual studio to the pursuit of making a DAW.
i understand where you are coming from... i owned Reason since version 1 and now on version 6.5... about updating Reason every year or every few year is a little off... yes... the last few updates have come a few years apart but before that... it was 3 to 4 year between updates... i own Live 9 (my main daw), FL Studio (never use it, but enjoy the lifetime free update), and Cubase 5 (to much going on in cubase for me, great program though) and you cant knock Reason... the only problem that i have is individuals calling others "Reason Haters"... when the facts are... we just want more for the money... period... i think Props should deliver a "stream from disk" sampler included in the update... but the way things are going... buy the update to use the current sdk... and purchase that "stream from disk" sampler separately... in other words... they are milking every feature that have been in other DAWs for years...saturdaysaint wrote:Yep, I own Live 9, I'm familiar with all of this, although more than a few of those fall into the category of "things other DAWs have had for years". But it doesn't matter! There's basically no replacing the Session view or the Rack, so these are all apples and oranges comparisons. I'm happy that Ableton and Props are more subtly refining their unique visions than trying to cram the flashiest sounding features in.
I'd absolutely agree that Live 9 was a bigger update than any Reason update in memory - the only difference is that Reason gives you the option of updating every year or every few years. There's no penalty in price if you wait a few versions and there's no penalty in stability if you jump on every upgrade (plus you get access to additional .1 updates and bonus effects like Pulsar and Synchronous) - personally, I wish Apple and Ableton gave you the option. Somewhere in the neighborhood of $7 a month isn't bad for something you enjoy regularly.
I own a bunch of DAWs out of curiosity, but I get the biggest kick out of playing with Reason. I wish I grokked to Logic or Live - I paid good money for them and have dug in enough to see some powerful features - but Reason gives me instant gratification and I just "get" it more than those, so I'll probably have fun with Reason 8 even though I was dragging samples into Impulse 8 years ago. *epic shrug*
I think their long term aim was to copy Apple's Mac App Store model but integrated within a music product; they chose to make this a DAW based on their side project Record. I wish they'd kept Reason and Record separate.Flandersh wrote:Tren wrote:Reason 8 is now 3 versions later than Reason 5 and yet it's not the refined advancement Reason 5 was over Reason 2. Yes we've got Audio and the SSL rack, but these feel like something slapped onto the side of the original Reason rack concept rather than something deeply integrated and integral to the workflow. The SSL mixer console should be an optional patch in, rather than something all instruments automatically patch through (and not just that but the cabling on the back of the rack should visibly plug into the SSL; currently these virtual cables are invisible!). Also you still can't create Combinators within Combinators (something which makes the rack look really messy, given the SSL patch through Mix rack unit is essentially a combinator you can't put your own combinators inside of - it's hard to collapse a whole channel easily in the rack!).
We've still got all the original artwork on the rack units, designed for 800x600 resolution. Making the rack horizontally scrolling does not remedy that these look dated, and flattening other GUI elements around them makes them look even more so.
Reason has become too complicated and not smooth enough to work with and these changes to the browser seem to acknowledge that. They should really start over and rebuild from scratch the perfect DAW, fully integrated together mixing and tweaking; rather than these newer Record elements tacked onto the old rack concept but not sticking to the same rules between them. It still just feels like they've pushed different DAW projects together and not got the continuity a true world class program should have and that all their past efforts before Record had.
IMHO.
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