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Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 12:23 am

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idfpower · Post by **idfpower** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:11 pm

pdxindy wrote: If the same sort of supersaw sound in Dune and Sylenth uses roughly the same cpu, then saying Dune2 is a cpu hog does not accurately represent the situation.

Let me spell it out for you then: on MY computer Dune 2 used more CPU than Sylenth. I can load 15 Sylenth instances easily; I can't do the same with Dune 2 (not even half). You can't predict how a certain plugin will perform on each machine since there are a lot of other factors to consider. On newer computers is more likely to see a smaller (to none) CPU impact. But mine is old and the difference is significant. So TO ME it's a CPU hog. But so is Spire, Diva and other powerful synths - and yet ppl have no problem using them on newer systems. It is what it is.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:41 pm

idfpower wrote:
pdxindy wrote: If the same sort of supersaw sound in Dune and Sylenth uses roughly the same cpu, then saying Dune2 is a cpu hog does not accurately represent the situation.
Let me spell it out for you then: on MY computer Dune 2 used more CPU than Sylenth. I can load 15 Sylenth instances easily; I can't do the same with Dune 2 (not even half). You can't predict how a certain plugin will perform on each machine since there are a lot of other factors to consider. On newer computers is more likely to see a smaller (to none) CPU impact. But mine is old and the difference is significant. So TO ME it's a CPU hog. But so is Spire, Diva and other powerful synths - and yet ppl have no problem using them on newer systems. It is what it is.

Spire for the same basic supersaw sound uses about 3-4 times the cpu as Dune2

idfpower · Post by **idfpower** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:56 pm

pdxindy wrote: Spire for the same basic supersaw sound uses about 3-4 times the cpu as Dune2

The idea was: the "CPU hog" label depends on the computer you're testing the synth on. The more powerful, the less issues. Plus the DAW - some plugins don't cope well with certain DAWs. So it's all relative.

C-note · Post by **C-note** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:35 am

ausgeno wrote:...
Not sure why people are so hung up on Sylenth, it was a great plug when it came out in 2007 but I don't see the appeal in todays market...

The appeal of Sylenth1 is huge in todays market. Pick almost any song in any genre's top 10 and you will hear Sylenth1 used on that track. Artists like Martin Garrix, Avicii, Claude Von Stroke, Steve Aoki, Project 46, Electronic Youth, Markus Shulz, Matrix and Futurebound, Worthy, Chicane, Little Wayne,Drake, Paul Okenfold and many more all use Sylenth1.

Phorous · Post by **Phorous** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:30 am

Sylenth1 will stay popular for quite a well for a few simple reason.

1. It sounds great
2. It has a bazillion soundbanks available
3. It is simple to program / tweak
4. Its not dirt cheap, but its not extremely expensive either
5. It does supersaws

6. Low CPU cost
7. Tons of people use it and like it

Add all those together and it becomes clear that Sylenth1 isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

I prefer Dune 2 because I want a more diverse sonic palette for my dance type sounds but I can see why people still rock Sylenth!

V0RT3X · Post by **V0RT3X** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:43 am

Honestly I think owning Dune 2 and Zebra 2 would cover like 100% of your modern synthesis needs. If you needed Wubwub sounds then get Massive & FM8 too.

ftech · Post by **ftech** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:36 pm

C-note wrote:
ausgeno wrote:...
Not sure why people are so hung up on Sylenth, it was a great plug when it came out in 2007 but I don't see the appeal in todays market...
The appeal of Sylenth1 is huge in todays market. Pick almost any song in any genre's top 10 and you will hear Sylenth1 used on that track. Artists like Martin Garrix, Avicii, Claude Von Stroke, Steve Aoki, Project 46, Electronic Youth, Markus Shulz, Matrix and Futurebound, Worthy, Chicane, Little Wayne,Drake, Paul Okenfold and many more all use Sylenth1.

I am unsure as to whether this is an argument for or against Sylenth.

C-note · Post by **C-note** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:29 pm

ftech wrote:
C-note wrote:
ausgeno wrote:...
Not sure why people are so hung up on Sylenth, it was a great plug when it came out in 2007 but I don't see the appeal in todays market...
The appeal of Sylenth1 is huge in todays market. Pick almost any song in any genre's top 10 and you will hear Sylenth1 used on that track. Artists like Martin Garrix, Avicii, Claude Von Stroke, Steve Aoki, Project 46, Electronic Youth, Markus Shulz, Matrix and Futurebound, Worthy, Chicane, Little Wayne,Drake, Paul Okenfold and many more all use Sylenth1.
I am unsure as to whether this is an argument for or against Sylenth.

So, if we take into account just the list above, not counting all the other great artists using it, you do not see the appeal of Sylenth1 in todays market?

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:07 am

The appeal of sylenth1 is easy. It's impossible to make it sound bad. Stack some oscillators on top and use a couple filters.

I think Spire has a similar sort of structure - 4 oscs, 2 filters. You can approach it the same, but of course it's much more versatile with the oscillator types. If they manage to bring the cpu down as the video teaser demonstrated I think it's a good replacement which is even better.

C-note · Post by **C-note** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:06 am

Echoes in the Attic wrote:The appeal of sylenth1 is easy. It's impossible to make it sound bad. Stack some oscillators on top and use a couple filters.

I think Spire has a similar sort of structure - 4 oscs, 2 filters. You can approach it the same, but of course it's much more versatile with the oscillator types. If they manage to bring the cpu down as the video teaser demonstrated I think it's a good replacement which is even better.

I agree, but Lennard has a bit of fairy dust in his algo's that no one has yet matched concerning CPU or ease of use. Neither Dune or Spire is as easy to use for me or as easy on CPU.

CableChannel · Post by **CableChannel** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:42 am

+1

Sylenth IS the alternative.

On my system Sylenth behaves really smooth concerning CPU, while Dune 2 causes problems, unsteady CPU load even causing dropouts.

Alchemy COULD be an alternative, it has all the features, great OSCs, filters and effects, but there are barely any good EDM presets compared with Sylenth. Sylenth has tons of them, Alchemy has a handful only. And Alchemy is also higher on CPU.

V0RT3X · Post by **V0RT3X** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:31 am

Get Zebra 2

Nielzie · Post by **Nielzie** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:38 am

C-note wrote:
ftech wrote:
C-note wrote:
ausgeno wrote:...
Not sure why people are so hung up on Sylenth, it was a great plug when it came out in 2007 but I don't see the appeal in todays market...
The appeal of Sylenth1 is huge in todays market. Pick almost any song in any genre's top 10 and you will hear Sylenth1 used on that track. Artists like Martin Garrix, Avicii, Claude Von Stroke, Steve Aoki, Project 46, Electronic Youth, Markus Shulz, Matrix and Futurebound, Worthy, Chicane, Little Wayne,Drake, Paul Okenfold and many more all use Sylenth1.
I am unsure as to whether this is an argument for or against Sylenth.
So, if we take into account just the list above, not counting all the other great artists using it, you do not see the appeal of Sylenth1 in todays market?

Or the fact that even after 7 or so years people still argue wether there is a better alternative to Sylenth

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:50 pm

C-note wrote:Lennard has a bit of fairy dust in his algo's that no one has yet matched concerning CPU

That's the mythology some Sylenth users promote... but it is much simpler... Sylenth avoids synth features that take more cpu to sound good. Pulse width modulation, ring modulation, osc sync and so on... That is also why, even though users asked thousands of times for such additions, they were never added. Obviously it was a successful strategy, but there is nothing magical about it.

Sylenth1 Awesome Alternatives?