KVR Audio

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:50 am

It's not v8 but the vx.5, that usually follows suit and includes new devices, that will tickle my fancy.

HobbyCore · Post by **HobbyCore** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:08 pm

Jace-BeOS wrote:I love the new third party plug ins that... wait... Line 6 stuff will be removed? Really? Backwards compatibility will be hamstrung for anyone upgrading to a version that will exclude the Line 6 stuff.

So when will the Softube stuff face the same removal? A few versions when the companies no longer want to keep their license agreements?

And where's the larger UI on the rack items? It's well beyond time for larger GUI elements. We are using massive screens with retina-style pixel density and Reason still has the same rack UI size as version 1.

Well, I just bought Reason 7 on June 3, and miss the free upgrade by a month. I'm not interested in a new flat UI fad, Softube plugins and... nothing else.

Luckily for you, they made it so you lose functionality from your Reason 7 purchase assuming you ever want to open those projects again...

thedreampolice · Post by **thedreampolice** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:40 pm

?? No they didnt! The line 6 stuff isnt going away until 2016 and Reason 10 at this rate so everything from R7 and will work fine.

stroker_ace · Post by **stroker_ace** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:45 pm

festeringheap wrote:
pc999 wrote:https://www.propellerheads.se/products/reason/reason8/

Not much info, just say it reworked the interface and workflow, plus new amp models.
Honestly, that is the lamest announcement for any upgrade for any DAW I have ever seen. The vid times in at 2:09, and yet the first bit of info about what is in the upgrade doesn't arrive until 1:05 - halfway way in. By 1:40, all the info has been given. 1/4 to tell us features - a new browser that drags and drops, 3/4 to tell all pretty much nothing. If there are some kickass Softube guitar and bass amps in upgrade, then they should have some guitar and bass playing in there. Showcase the amps some. They had over a minute and a half to do so. It's just like a really bad movie, and totally not up to their usual standards. Completely uninspiring.
Baffled. Do they want people to upgrade? Maybe they want you spend instead on some new Rack Extensions. This is one lean upgrade. I'll skip this one.

That's a great point you make about the Softube guitar and bass amps. It was a major fail to not provide an audio preview of them in action. A mere 10-12 seconds could have covered a lot of sonic ground; from clean folk/pop, to heavy metal, and a stop in-between.

This video was all about the concept of improved workflow, and next to nothing about the tools you'll actually be working with.

My favorite part was when they showed a few Props' employees walking in slow-motion, to show how deep, serious, and committed they are, and the montage of them workin' hard. They should have had a few nurse types in there, mopping brows and such.

Or maybe my favorite part was the dreadlocked vocalist hammering out a tune with her guitarist.

Or maybe it was the dude gettin' funky at the keyboard.

Or maybe it was the newbie-chick spreading her singer-songwriter wings for the first time.

Or maybe it was the white kid in the hoodie. He was smiling. I'd like to smile, too, so maybe I should upgrade to Reason 8.

Either way, I'm moist, and I've got my credit card at the ready.

Reason 8 = Benetton

It's an abysmal video. As a goof it would have been (barely) tolerable ("extremely formulaic" division), but they actually expect people to believe they believe this!

At the very, very least, they're woefully out of touch, and completely condescending.

At best, they completely suck.

I'd rather light €129 on fire just to watch it burn and sample the sound it made than give it to them.

Long-term, they're doomed. They just don't get it, and they seemingly revel in not getting it. They've got three speeds; "stonewall silence", "ultra-cheesy marketing", and "5 years behind everybody else".

Compare that with NI's last public Q&A (at MESSE), and a lot of things become very obvious.

daExpert · Post by **daExpert** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:04 pm

It's just software bro. It's not the end of the world.

stroker_ace · Post by **stroker_ace** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:15 pm

daExpert wrote:It's just software bro. It's not the end of the world.

I'm not your bro, and nothing is "just" anything.

"everything counts in large amounts........."

Mr. Fister · Post by **Mr. Fister** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:25 pm

I think the Reason crowd needs to grow up.

Out of all the DAWs, Reason has the most immature and seriously inexperienced user base. Just read the responses here. These guys who blindly support Reason are hilarious. The program is years and years behind other DAWs and these guys will defend it to no end.

RE's are a joke that will never ever impact big-time studios.....ever.

It's just a product they can hustle to their amateur user base.

krucial · Post by **krucial** » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:18 am

I read somewhere that the KVR community is a bunch of talentless hacks with DAW insecurity. But thats none of my business. Dont shoot the messenger.

SummerPasta · Post by **SummerPasta** » Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:19 am

I bet you read that on the props forum. In fact I can post the link if anyone gives a rats ass.

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:42 pm

SummerPasta wrote:... if anyone gives a rats ass.

I doubt

neverenoughfunk · Post by **neverenoughfunk** » Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:45 pm

krucial wrote:I read somewhere that the KVR community is a bunch of talentless hacks with DAW insecurity. But thats none of my business. Dont shoot the messenger.

how did you feel when you read that... i ask because you are a member of the KVR community.... right?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:53 pm

krucial wrote:I read somewhere that the KVR community is a bunch of talentless hacks with DAW insecurity. But thats none of my business. Dont shoot the messenger.

I read that somewhere else too, and it was not the PH forum.

Actually it was even a member of this forum, but i won't mention names...

BMoore · Post by **BMoore** » Thu Aug 14, 2014 3:01 pm

Mr. Fister wrote:I think the Reason crowd needs to grow up.

Out of all the DAWs, Reason has the most immature and seriously inexperienced user base. Just read the responses here. These guys who blindly support Reason are hilarious. The program is years and years behind other DAWs and these guys will defend it to no end.

RE's are a joke that will never ever impact big-time studios.....ever.

It's just a product they can hustle to their amateur user base.

Pot, meet kettle.

LawrenceF · Post by **LawrenceF** » Thu Aug 14, 2014 3:46 pm

This thread is kinda funny.

My question would be... "Unless you actually want to own and use Reason (and those here who do and are using it are of course excluded), who cares?"

If I were a Reason user who was productive with it and enjoyed using it and I thought the new UI tweaks could improve my overall comfort with it, I'd probably pay the $130, budget permitting. If not, I'd keep my money in my pocket and wait for the next update.

memyselfandus · Post by **memyselfandus** » Thu Aug 14, 2014 3:52 pm

LawrenceF wrote:This thread is kinda funny.

My question would be... "Unless you actually want to own and use Reason (and those here who do and are using it are of course excluded), who cares?"

If I were a Reason user who was productive with it and enjoyed using it and I thought the new UI tweaks could improve my overall comfort with it, I'd probably pay the $130, budget permitting. If not, I'd keep my money in my pocket and wait for the next update.

Exactly. Anyone have a full list of the browser improvements?

Reason 8 - Official