IKM SampleTank 3 (ST3) Now Available

[Teksonik]

Well just for balance I'm very happy that I purchased the ST3 upgrade. But I can understand your position.

Anyway is there already one available or can we get a Tutorial on how to edit the Macros ? I'm reading the ST3 Manual but it doesn't seem to give a lot of help....(or I'm just stupid and missing it).

Also I find myself wishing for a way to play the samples in sequence.....wavesequencing. A "Delay" knob on each part would allow fo rsamples to be playing in sequence over time........some type of fade would be nice as well but not sure how that would be accomplished........

But right now I'm just trying to get my head around assigning and editing Macros...any help would be greatly appreciated.

[BBFG#]

You're back...
So do we have a solid date for the demo to show up on your site yet?

[Teksonik]

Here's some more Sonik Synth Mulits for ST3. 20 altogether and the ones that I released earlier were reworked a bit.

Sonikk Synth ST3 Teksonik 02

I think it's the new and improved effects that have made the Sonik Synth samples just pop now. Really having a lot of fun rediscovering these samples............hope you enjoy.

Awesome, thanks for posting these here (and on our forum). Much appreciated.

My pleasure ! Having a ton of fun with ST3.... Let me know what you think of the multis...some are great fun to play (if I do say so myself.... )

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

You're back...
So do we have a solid date for the demo to show up on your site yet?

I don't have an exact date but it will be here soon. I didn't go anywhere, you guys were doing a great job discussing SampleTank 3.

[BBFG#]

You're back...
So do we have a solid date for the demo to show up on your site yet?

I don't have an exact date but it will be here soon. I didn't go anywhere, you guys were doing a great job discussing SampleTank 3.

Not me, I'm still waiting for the computer science to kick in and let me test the demo.
Then I'll know if I can even join the discussion or have to join the ranks of letting it go.

[DarkStar]

Anyway is there already one available or can we get a Tutorial on how to edit the Macros ? I'm reading the ST3 Manual but it doesn't seem to give a lot of help....(or I'm just stupid and missing it).
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But right now I'm just trying to get my head around assigning and editing Macros...any help would be greatly appreciated.

If I understand you correctly, the Macro controls are hard-wired to various parts of the Instruments, they cannot be edited. Actually you can change the assigned CC# and range on the MIDI Control window but that's it.

Long, long ago, I did ask for user-programmable / editable Macro controls, mainly so I could use VSTi automation for many on the Sonik Synth 2 instruments.

[Teksonik]

Anyway is there already one available or can we get a Tutorial on how to edit the Macros ? I'm reading the ST3 Manual but it doesn't seem to give a lot of help....(or I'm just stupid and missing it).
...
But right now I'm just trying to get my head around assigning and editing Macros...any help would be greatly appreciated.

If I understand you correctly, the Macro controls are hard-wired to various parts of the Instruments, they cannot be edited. Actually you can change the assigned CC# and range on the MIDI Control window but that's it.

Long, long ago, I did ask for user-programmable / editable Macro controls, mainly so I could use VSTi automation for many on the Sonik Synth 2 instruments.

Really ? You can't assign a parameter to a Macro ? How do the people who create the Instruments do it ? So if the instrument you choose doesn't have a Macro assigned to a Parameter you're just out of luck ? That seems bizarre and an almost unbelievable omission. What good are per Part Macros if you can't use them ? Surely this can't be correct ???

I just checked and the same is true for Sampletank 2....I guess I've never tried to assign Macros before. Perhaps because the Macro Strip is so prominently displayed now that I thought assigning the 8 knobs on my midi controller to the 8 Macro knobs seemed like a good idea.............
Obviously there is a utility, program, or developer's version of ST3 that allows the creation of Instruments and the assignment of Macros so the code exists in some form.

[neverenoughfunk]

I don't have an exact date but it will be here soon.

the ST 3 theme!!!

because i thought the demo was coming out last week!!!

[BBFG#]

I don't have an exact date but it will be here soon.

the ST 3 theme!!!
because i thought the demo was coming out last week!!!

Funny, I seem to have heard that too, before the scientific confusion was cast.
Really considering if the schmooze should convince me to just cancel also.

[DarkStar]

Really ? You can't assign a parameter to a Macro ? How do the people who create the Instruments do it ? So if the instrument you choose doesn't have a Macro assigned to a Parameter you're just out of luck ? That seems bizarre and an almost unbelievable omission. What good are per Part Macros if you can't use them ? Surely this can't be correct ???

I just checked and the same is true for Sampletank 2....I guess I've never tried to assign Macros before. Perhaps because the Macro Strip is so prominently displayed now that I thought assigning the 8 knobs on my midi controller to the 8 Macro knobs seemed like a good idea.............
Obviously there is a utility, program, or developer's version of ST3 that allows the creation of Instruments and the assignment of Macros so the code exists in some form.

'Fraid so - as you say, the instrument designers must have some special program - as they would also need to do things such as round-robin, key-switching, velocity switching etc. Maybe, one day, users will have access to those editing functions too.

Meanwhile I have suggested stripping the Import functionality out of ST3 into a separate program (and most people will not use it much, after their initial flurry of Imports) and adding a comprehensive "Import SFZ" function.

[Teksonik]

'Fraid so - as you say, the instrument designer must have some special program - as they would also need to do things such as round-robin, key-switching, velocity switching etc. Maybe, one day, user will have access to those editing functions too.

See this is why having a dedicated team of private Beta Testers with direct access to the people who write the code is so important to the development of a synth or effect......Someone should have been dogging the developers about this clearly obvious omission.

There should also be a way to load sample sets directly into an instrument so you can for example set up filter sweeps or ADSR settings and then cycle thru sample sets to see which sample sounds best for that particular patch without having to re-do all the settings each time you load a new Instrument.

Meanwhile I have suggested stripping the Import functionality out of ST3 into a separate program (and most people will not use it much, after their initial flurry of Imports) and adding a comprehensive "Import SFZ" function.

As you suggested maybe IK can release the "Instrument creation tool" in some form so we can create our own Instruments/Macros/Effects setups which we can then load into ST3. Obviously it's being done some way by the folks who created the ST3 instruments. I will add a big +1 for .sfz import as well...........

[Teksonik]

At any rate although the Macro issue is a disappointment and quite frankly a big surprise I'm still having fun with ST3 and still feel like the upgrade was a great value. Hopefully the development cycle will accelerate and new feature requests like those above and others such as per Layer Arps etc can be implemented in ST 3.5 or 4 and beyond..........

[Burillo]

well, they didn't provide the tool for ST2, so i doubt it'll be there for ST3. but, as you said, you never needed the function, so maybe they're right in doing so?

[Teksonik]

well, they didn't provide the tool for ST2, so i doubt it'll be there for ST3. but, as you said, you never needed the function, so maybe they're right in doing so?

Really ? You're going with that ? The main reason I never used Macros before was that the Macros knobs were tucked away on ST2's tiny GUI. Now that the Macro strip is prominently displayed on ST3'S GUI it begs to be programmed..........but we can't. You can't possibly think that's right ?

[Teksonik]

Oh and keeping in line with IK Multimedia's raison d'être.....I would pay for such an "instrument creation tool".