One-Synth-Challenge #66: ODsay by Elektrostudio (Keith303 Wins!)

[doctorbob]

LOL, you didn't have to change to my preference just because I like songs in minor keys brutha!

However, it does seem that the darker tracks attract more attention than the bright bouncy and downright silly ones do!

But, whatever I do, there's a lot of careful sound design, and I take great care with the harmonies and bass+kick (try to avoid faking it with sidechaining if I can!)

... having backing sounds farther back in the mix (lower volume) and I think more could be done on that end. But, take this relative newbie's opinion with a bunch of grains of salt.

I am still working on getting the right sweet mix/balance for the final section. You are right, it is still busy. But, the problem is that the extra lead in there is more for adding to the harmonies, apart from a few small phrases which I let bleed through. The issue is that once you muck about with the harmony tracks (3+the new lead) and their balance vs the melody, then the feel of those harmonies starts to get lost. I might go for a little more thinning via EQ rather than too much volume automation. Watch this space as they say!

I like it a lot more than last months. You're quite the creative dude.

Oh, thanks for that. I try ... that's all I can say, I try ...

I gave up on FL Studio about a week ago. I know others love the piano roll in FL Studio, but to me it's downright annoying, as is the arrangement. I could do a bridge in Live, but a couple people had issues and I don't want to deal with any potential issues for a 32-bit bridge that could put me into can't play with music mode for a week or something. So, I'll wait for another 64-bit synth and just keep doing what I'm doing with mixing records and making stuff w/ 64-bit VSTs in Live.

That's a shame. But yes, I really didn't get on with FL and so moved away.

Rob

[RuediRena]

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[fluffy_little_something]

https://soundcloud.com/keith303/as-we-mature

written with
01x Renoise 3.0 and
17 instances of "Odsay"

used meta devices:
02 x Key Tracker
02 x LFO Device
03 x Signal Follower
03 x Hydra
Total amount of Meta Devices: 10

used DSP devices:
01 x Distortion
08 x EQ 10
04 x Gainer
02 x Exciter
22 x Filter
01 x mpReverb
02 x MultiTap Delay
01 x Repeater
01 x LoFiMat
01 x Comb Filter
01 x Maximizer
Total amount of DSP Devices: 44

used VST plugins:
03 x Arguru Stardust
01 x Aradaz Maximizer 5
02 x KarmaFX Reverb
01 x KarmaFX Deelay
Total amount of VST instances: 7

Sounds good. 22 filters?! Doesn't that synth have a filter of its own?

[BlackWinny]

Yes, but he has filtered it.

[bjporter]

Yes, but he has filtered it.

extra purified sound!

[keith303]

of course odsay features its own filters...

but in modern music, you need more - so here's how it works:
i use 22 filters to filter BASS. The more filters, the more BASS.
i usually do 15 filters for the BASS in standard bass track and do 18 filters for good bass track.
now, after 22 years of making music and serious CPU overclocking, i made 22 filters for XXL anniversary BASS.
that's why sound is now ultra-korrekt.
i hope that makes sense.
bye.

[bjporter]

of course odsay features its own filters...

but in modern music, you need more - so here's how it works:
i use 22 filters to filter BASS. The more filters, the more BASS.
i usually do 15 filters for the BASS in standard bass track and do 18 filters for good bass track.
now, after 22 years of making music and serious CPU overclocking, i made 22 filters for XXL anniversary BASS.
that's why sound is now ultra-korrekt.
i hope that makes sense.
bye.

That's interesting Do you use filters as EQ as well?

[keith303]

of course odsay features its own filters...

but in modern music, you need more - so here's how it works:
i use 22 filters to filter BASS. The more filters, the more BASS.
i usually do 15 filters for the BASS in standard bass track and do 18 filters for good bass track.
now, after 22 years of making music and serious CPU overclocking, i made 22 filters for XXL anniversary BASS.
that's why sound is now ultra-korrekt.
i hope that makes sense.
bye.

That's interesting Do you use filters as EQ as well?

i have the feeling that this question, apart from the statement that my above post was interesting, is meant seriously, so here's my highly serious answer

i use an 8th order butterworth highpass filter on almost every track of every project to simply cut off inaudible or unwanted frequency mud up until 80-200hz, depending on the respective audio/instrument in question.


some do it via EQ, some via DAW integrated channel strips, i prefer the "filter" method
especially because i'm not the greatest fan of renoise's integrated EQs (EQ5/EQ10).

[bjporter]

some do it via EQ, some via DAW integrated channel strips, i prefer the "filter" method
especially because i'm not the greatest fan of renoise's integrated EQs (EQ5/EQ10).

Heck yeah. One thing I do is put a filter on almost every track - even percussion or high hats, just to doubly make sure any muddiness is gone.

Also a huge fan of Filter/EQ as well. Sometimes I have 3 Eq's on a single track.

Check out Engineer Filter by rs_met - it has some crazy filters - like a nearly infinite elliptical - blocks out almost all sound

[IrionDaRonin]

There is no channel in my tracks that there isn't an EQ.
I use the same technique about removing unwanted frequencies and artifacts, but i do it with EQ. More space for the whole mix.
An EQ is a bunch of filters after all, and you can shape it the way you want, even make some movements that tracks the frequencies in different notes, perfect mixing into EQ.

Have a nice day

[fluffy_little_something]

of course odsay features its own filters...

but in modern music, you need more - so here's how it works:
i use 22 filters to filter BASS. The more filters, the more BASS.
i usually do 15 filters for the BASS in standard bass track and do 18 filters for good bass track.
now, after 22 years of making music and serious CPU overclocking, i made 22 filters for XXL anniversary BASS.
that's why sound is now ultra-korrekt.
i hope that makes sense.
bye.

Why that kind of reply? With all the external stuff you used, one might wonder what is left of the original sound of the synth...

[H-man]

Check out Engineer Filter by rs_met - it has some crazy filters - like a nearly infinite elliptical - blocks out almost all sound

+1 some really useful stuff. Has midi control but automation is sadly missing.

http://www.rs-met.com/freebies.html

[keith303]

of course odsay features its own filters...

but in modern music, you need more - so here's how it works:
i use 22 filters to filter BASS. The more filters, the more BASS.
i usually do 15 filters for the BASS in standard bass track and do 18 filters for good bass track.
now, after 22 years of making music and serious CPU overclocking, i made 22 filters for XXL anniversary BASS.
that's why sound is now ultra-korrekt.
i hope that makes sense.
bye.

Why that kind of reply? With all the external stuff you used, one might wonder what is left of the original sound of the synth...

what's the problem with the nature of my reply?
you guys ridiculed the fact that i used 22 filters in my song and i ridiculed the fact that a question, whose answer i thought would be obvious on a musician forum, was asked.
we can now make a drama about it or enjoy life and write some music instead.

[fluffy_little_something]

of course odsay features its own filters...

but in modern music, you need more - so here's how it works:
i use 22 filters to filter BASS. The more filters, the more BASS.
i usually do 15 filters for the BASS in standard bass track and do 18 filters for good bass track.
now, after 22 years of making music and serious CPU overclocking, i made 22 filters for XXL anniversary BASS.
that's why sound is now ultra-korrekt.
i hope that makes sense.
bye.

Why that kind of reply? With all the external stuff you used, one might wonder what is left of the original sound of the synth...

what's the problem with the nature of my reply?
you guys ridiculed the fact that i used 22 filters in my song and i ridiculed the fact that a question, whose answer should be obvious on a musician forum, was asked.
we can now make a drama about it or enjoy life and write some music instead.

It's not obvious at all. By far not everyone on this board knows about those things or does them the way you do. I never use any external filters. I do use equalizers, but you have listed those separately, anyway.

And again, it is not just about the filters. There are so many external plugins being used in the OSC's that I really doubt the point of it all. I think this competition should serve to demonstrate the sound of the synth chosen. When I send it through numerous effects, the resulting sound could also be from any other synth out there.

Maybe it would be cool if participants had to submit both the wet, complete and the dry mix, which doesn't contain any external effects. That way people could compare

[pedalsteeldrummer]

My entry for this month's OSC - enjoy

https://soundcloud.com/pedalsteeldrumme ... -beginning

TRACK NOTES:

Created for the KVR One-Synth-Challenge 66: ODsay.

All sounds from Elektrostudio's ODsay VST instrument. Most of the patches I used are factory presets.

13 instances of ODsay. Mixed/mastered in Cockos Reaper 4.71 with native fx (ReaEQ, ReaComp, ReaXcomp) and free fx (Voxengo Marvel GEQ, Variety of Sound BootEQmkII/epicVerb/FerricTDS/Density MKIII, arcDev ET-301, Vladislav Goncharov Limiter No6).

DR11
http://www.pleasurizemusic.com/en/our-aim
better and more dynamic sound