Painful Product demo: don't watch!

[Examigan]

Don't click to see the pricing, don't do it!
http://www.native-instruments.com/en/pr ... s/pricing/

I know it has aftertouch which is great, but 25 keys for $499?

Don't forget all the LED's

In Germany it's 499€ (because 1€ = 1.31$ .......?)
 

Quick conversion: $656.30 USD
..ouch

[synthmagic]

I like the illuminated key switching and the mod pad thing is really interesting.
Would like to have a play on the keyboard to see how it feels.

[fst]

Last chance, do-not-click!

I was all prepared to give it the benefit of the doubt....and then I clicked....

[RunBeerRun]

Every demo video I've seen was painful, the majority of the video was just talking, and it was all "uh, uh, uh". And then when the music technology is used, he barely plays and doesn't highlight what it's good for.

[rentboyrenton]

It's pretty obvious the target audience demographic they are aiming for...

yes very obvious indeed

[Novalis]

Hm, in scale mode, you can even play only the white keys, and it will play the scale you set.

The next step will be, to feed the keyboard with a song, and it automatically aligns the scales to the white keys in sync with the chords of the song. So that whenever and whatever you play on the white keys, it will always be in tune with the song

[chroma]

Hm, in scale mode, you can even play only the white keys, and it will play the scale you set.

The next step will be, to feed the keyboard with a song, and it automatically aligns the scales to the white keys in sync with the chords of the song. So that whenever and whatever you play on the white keys, it will always be in tune with the song

why wait?
http://fabriziopoce.com/progressive.html

(the scale thing, you can even do today in most hosts as well.. i know live does it very easily...)

[kbaccki]

I'd rather just pay somebody to play my scales for me. Much less thought involved than fumbling around for the right preset. Plus, you can get some "offshore" talent for real cheap these days.

[DarkStar]

The C keys sometimes have an additional teal-coloured LED too. And while playing there seems to be a lot of odd flickering of those LEDs. Your personal light show!

Highlighting kontakt keyswitches is kinda cool and useful...

That's about the only thing I liked about it

Just a few thoughts:
-- well, you've got 'em highlighted, but can you recall which key switches which articulation?
-- what happens when you transpose the keyboard up an octave or two?
-- will third-party libraries trigger the highlighting too automatically, or will those libraries need updating / upgrading?
-- some libraries have key switches at both ends of an (88-key) keyboard

[kbaccki]

-- what happens when you transpose the keyboard up an octave or two?
[...]
-- some libraries have key switches at both ends of an (88-key) keyboard

Right, which is what would be nice about having general purpose "keyswitch buttons" not linear tied to the keybed itself. Just because it's called "keyswitch" doesn't mean it actually has to be activated by a physical piano key! They have all that real estate... they could have had two sections of 8 buttons each, left and right... and for the money they're asking they could even attach a tiny LED readout under each button. 49 keys is just enough to be a minimum amount of space without futzing with octave buttons... now cutting 4, 6,8, 10 keys out of your precious allotment just for keyswitching is a PITA.... not to mention the aforementioned keyswitch mappings being all over the 88-key map...

Actually, all they need is ONE keyswitch LED -- the current one. Ditch that scale preset nonsense and use the leftover LED display for keyswitch articulation readout.

[penguinfromdeep]

I don't really understand why you think this video is so painful, can somebody enlighten me? I mean ok, he doesn't play much but he shows those features on the keyboard that are kind of new ... Maybe not for you but yeah I'm probably not the target audience either but I didn't find this so painful to watch? Tell meee

[Gamma-UT]

-- some libraries have key switches at both ends of an (88-key) keyboard

The smart thing would be to have a fairly sophisticated split mechanism, so you can move the keyswitches into one zone on the NI keybed as you have the colour coding on that so that any transpose you do on the section that handles actual notes doesn't affect the placement of the keyswitches. It would also increase the usefulness of the 25-key version as you could place that above a regular controller or synth and have all its keys dedicated to keyswitches, with the synth acting as the regular keybed.

Kore had some useful keyboard split controls in it – if they've carried those over, it would make sense. OTOH, they may not have bothered...

[FLWrd]

That is one of the dumbest demos I've seen for some time. Well, it seems to be aimed at dummies, so that's quite consistent.

[Biome_Digital]

There is some nice looking features on this. Quite like the lights myself. I'm not in the market for a controller keyboard but If I was then I would have to have a play on this. It looks a bit big though.

[Biome_Digital]

There is some nice looking features on this. Quite like the lights myself. I'm not in the market for a controller keyboard but If I was then I would have to have a play on this. It looks a bit big though.