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Mace404 · Post by **Mace404** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:17 am

robotmonkey wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:Does DirectWave have scripting? All those effects (presets included - the impulse responses for convolution reverb that come with Kontakt are taking 520 MB, that's the majority of the installer, for your information)? Extensive database with tagging? Extensive support for tons of various formats?

Good try about "full featured".
Well, let's put it that way then. Waves full offline installer is about 750 megabytes. In that you get every single effect and the one synth that Waves has ever made. It's literally hundreds of high quality plugins (+ all manuals) that are in my opinion better than the competing NI stuff. An average installer for a single NI effect (be it a EQ, or a Compressor or whatever) is about 45-55 megabytes. An average installer for a NI synth seems to be over 100 megabytes. Guitar Rig 5 is also 450 megabytes. Waves GTR (that does everything that GR5 does) is 150 megabytes installed. Now tell me that NI does not make bloatware.

Until you download the Waves IR library a 4-5GB to have the complete set.
NI including usefull data in their installers isn't bloatware.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:29 am

robotmonkey wrote:Well, let's put it that way then. Waves full offline installer is about 750 megabytes.

9r20 is 1.1Gb, actually.
And if you dont own everything they do, then that's 'bloatware'. As is their provision of a mono/stereo/monostereo version of everything, 37 different variations of GTR3, yadda yadda yadda.

electro · Post by **electro** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:47 pm

izonin wrote:Nothing wrong with monophonic analogs. Pro One, ARP 2600, MS-20 are all great synths and Reaktor emulations from the same team that brought us Monark would be a welcome addition to the ITB producers' tonal palette.

U-he DIVA Models the MS-20 filter and Timewarp is still around.
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=365733

The Sequential Pro One and Arp Pro Soloist would make great Monophonic ensembles, but a Sequential P5 is preferred over both.

izonin · Post by **izonin** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:55 pm

electro wrote:The Sequential Pro One and Arp Pro Soloist would make great Monophonic ensembles, but a Sequential P5 is preferred over both.

But how exactly would it operate? There's a reason they made Monark monophonic only. Adding polyphony to a Reaktor ensemble is a piece of cake, but the hit on the CPU would be enormous.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:01 pm

electro wrote:nothing for K10, maybe K11?

Didn't you see that Rounds is inspired by a classic two osc analog synth?

electro · Post by **electro** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:50 pm

Numanoid wrote:
electro wrote:nothing for K10, maybe K11?
Didn't you see that Rounds is inspired by a classic two osc analog synth?

Where is that stated? FM8 and Monark are still the only synth based emulations from NI.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:53 pm

electro wrote:
Numanoid wrote:
electro wrote:nothing for K10, maybe K11?
Didn't you see that Rounds is inspired by a classic two osc analog synth?
Where is that stated?

I dunno, does NI have a website?

electro · Post by **electro** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:56 pm

2 Osc synths aren't many. Odyssey, Oscar... both modelled by Gforce, what else?

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:09 pm

electro wrote:2 Osc synths aren't many. Odyssey, Oscar... both modelled by Gforce, what else?

SC Prophet 5 perhaps

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:59 pm

Until multi-cpu support for Reaktor I'm probably a no go on a Komplete upgrade.

electro · Post by **electro** » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:26 pm

I mistook to Osc for 2 voice. How could that synth be a Pro5?

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:43 am

According to VSE Prophet 5 has got:

Polyphony - 5 Voices
Oscillators - 2 OSC. per voice square / pulse / tri / saw

That doesn't make it a 10xOSC synth does it? I mean basically it is a 2xOSC synth.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:59 am

Numanoid wrote:According to VSE Prophet 5 has got:

Polyphony - 5 Voices
Oscillators - 2 OSC. per voice square / pulse / tri / saw

That doesn't make it a 10xOSC synth does it? I mean basically it is a 2xOSC synth.

Actually the Propet 5 is a quite "unusual" 2 osc synth as you could use all available waveforms at once (2 for Osc 1 and 3 for Osc2).
With most other 2 Osc synths you could only use one waveform for each Osc.

Best emulation currently available (while not perfect...) is still Arturia Propet V IMO (and additionally it also includes the VS and hybrid synth).

A 100% accurate Propet 5 emulation is still something i would like to see. If NI would do it with the same quality as Monark it would be cool but like others i have some worries concerning CPU use.
I had done a polyphonic Monark ensemble but using more than 4-5 voices does not seem to be possible with my quite oldr CPU (while with modern CPUs it should be less problematic).

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:19 am

electro wrote:
Numanoid wrote:
electro wrote:nothing for K10, maybe K11?
Didn't you see that Rounds is inspired by a classic two osc analog synth?
Where is that stated?

It isnt, really.

Native Instruments wrote:A REAKTOR-based synth that combines digital and analog synth sounds with complex, sequenced sound shifting capabilities
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ROUNDS comes with one analog and one digital synth engine
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The analog engine is inspired by a classic, two-oscillator synth.

It'd only be accurate to say that part of Rounds is inspired by a classic two osc analog synth.

wehkah · Post by **wehkah** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:40 am

Absynth, looks different but sounds great.

NI Pro 54?