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careyletendre · Post by **careyletendre** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:56 pm

Does it bother you when you buy an instrument or effect plugin and then a week later it goes on sale?

If so, what time frame is reasonable for insisting on a refund?

Carey

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:00 pm

I couldn't care less, if I want it and the price seems right to me, I get it, all this sale-hysteria is killing the business anyway.

xx JPRacer xx · Post by **xx JPRacer xx** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:00 pm

Yes this bother me a lot but that's just the way it is.

valerian_777 · Post by **valerian_777** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:00 pm

Thats why we all love U-he.

ImNotDedYet · Post by **ImNotDedYet** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:37 pm

valerian_777 wrote:Thats why we all love U-he.

Among other reasons.

careyletendre · Post by **careyletendre** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:43 pm

Sampleconstruct wrote:I couldn't care less, if I want it and the price seems right to me, I get it, all this sale-hysteria is killing the business anyway.

I'm curious as to why you think sales are bad. They may entice some people to purchase who would otherwise not have done so.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:01 pm

For companies, sales are very good, because in tough times, or when it's a good time business wise, it can increase income, even if it's sold cheaper. For buyers it's good, because you can get the stuff for a better price. Both sides benefit from it IMO. And on-topic, of course it might be disappointing when you buy the stuff for more a short time before a sale. But that's life. Most dev's should be flexible enough to maybe refund you though. Shooting them a message won't harm.

valerian_777 · Post by **valerian_777** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:26 pm

Sampleconstruct wrote:I couldn't care less, if I want it and the price seems right to me, I get it, all this sale-hysteria is killing the business anyway.

I'm a little bit surprised about this statement as well, didn't you do sales too? Also i remember a big group-buy last year which is nothing else then a sale.

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:28 pm

careyletendre wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:I couldn't care less, if I want it and the price seems right to me, I get it, all this sale-hysteria is killing the business anyway.
I'm curious as to why you think sales are bad. They may entice some people to purchase who would otherwise not have done so.

It's just my personal experience as a sound developer, sales with reasonable discounts e g. 20% for short term promos do attract new customers, huge discounts devalue the products in the long run and have no benefit whatsoever if viewed in a bigger picture. As a customer of VIs and FX plugs I don't buy when there is a sale, but when I need something for production. Of course with companies like e.g. Melda I would never pay the full price as they have permanent sales on a weekly basis and the prices displayed are just imaginative, not real.

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:31 pm

valerian_777 wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:I couldn't care less, if I want it and the price seems right to me, I get it, all this sale-hysteria is killing the business anyway.
I'm a little bit surprised about this statement as well, didn't you do sales too? Also i remember a big group-buy last year which is nothing else then a sale.

Yes, I learn my lessons over the years though, see my post above, I would never do such a group buy again with such high discount rates, but it was fun anyway.

careyletendre · Post by **careyletendre** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:43 pm

Sampleconstruct wrote: It's just my personal experience as a sound developer, sales with reasonable discounts e g. 20% for short term promos do attract new customers, huge discounts devalue the products in the long run and have no benefit whatsoever if viewed in a bigger picture.

I agree that regularly occuring large discounts do devalue the brand.

http://www.crysonic.com/

Carey

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:01 pm

Sampleconstruct wrote:
careyletendre wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:I couldn't care less, if I want it and the price seems right to me, I get it, all this sale-hysteria is killing the business anyway.
I'm curious as to why you think sales are bad. They may entice some people to purchase who would otherwise not have done so.
It's just my personal experience as a sound developer, sales with reasonable discounts e g. 20% for short term promos do attract new customers, huge discounts devalue the products in the long run and have no benefit whatsoever if viewed in a bigger picture. As a customer of VIs and FX plugs I don't buy when there is a sale, but when I need something for production. Of course with companies like e.g. Melda I would never pay the full price as they have permanent sales on a weekly basis and the prices displayed are just imaginative, not real.

As a hobbyist, one doesn't NEED any software. It is in this case a want and, as a want, allows one the time to wait for sales or to search for the lowest price possible. And there are A LOT of hobbyist in the market.

I've NEVER bought software at the retail price. Never. Nor would I either. And I have a well apportioned virtual 'studio.' I'm likely an extreme case. However, I suspect many many do check around and look for better pricing or wait for some period of time before purchasing for a similar reason. It is software so the price associated is highly imaginative in the first place.

Now on a tight schedule and working for someone.. those are the people that will buy whenever to get the job done. As are the impatient hobbyists too. But a little discipline can save you tons of money.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:06 pm

The usual suspects can be noticed to be cyclical and fairly predictable. As far as being bothered, nah, that's life, live and learn.

For me, eg., EWQL has devalued their brand with so many rather significant reductions of price. I'm not likely to buy for numerous other reasons but if I had to have a product, it's wait for it, there will be a sale on this thing before long.

Any acquisition today, or any attraction to a sound product has to do with the composition I'm working in rather directly and I've heard something I want immediately though.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:52 pm

careyletendre wrote:Does it bother you when you buy an instrument or effect plugin and then a week later it goes on sale?

If so, what time frame is reasonable for insisting on a refund?

why do you think you would you be entitled to a refund?

what if you get a refund, shouldnt the guy who bought it a day before that be entitled to one? what about the guy who bought it the day before that, or the week, or ten years ago? why be unfair to them?

what about the guy who's on holiday until the day after the sale? shouldnt he get the sale price too? and the guy who's in a coma until two years from now?

btw, please try hard not to think exactly how much money you'll 'lose' on food and groceries in your life because you missed out on sale dates. do you think they should refund you for every one you miss out on too?

if you paid more than you thought it was actually worth to you, that's your fault. if the sale price becomes the definition of its value to you, you're doing it wrong. seriously, if you didnt want to pay what you did, why the hell did you?
there's something really really wrong when folk get worked up about the prospect that someone somewhere might have got to pay less for something than they did.

seriously, if the worst thing that ever happens to you in this world is that someone else gets to buy the same toys as you, but cheaper, you're doing well.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:02 pm

careyletendre wrote:Does it bother you when you buy an instrument or effect plugin and then a week later it goes on sale?

It's annoying, but what if you use that headstart week to make a major super-hit, that earns you a lot of money

Sale After Purchase.