Studio One 3?

[egbert]

Oxford dictionary is not a complete list of technical terms. Engineering and science are replete with terms not listed in the OED. Perhaps you should get more of a grasp of this sort of thing before you lecture others.

Gearslutz has a very enlightening thread about this dicotomy, and they concluded pretty much that "bus" is the correct spelling, and "buss" was a mispelling that strated in the 50s and came along in the audio engineering circles, but is now being abandoned, because it's incorrect. So, it should be "bus" and plural "buses". The origin of the word in the latin omnibus.

The "buss" spelling was all over the audio engineering texts I read in the 80s and 90s. Many of these were from the UK. I gather that term is also used in electrical engineering.

Here's an example:
http://www.railwaybob.com/Modules/Track ... uss01.html

[fmr]

Oxford dictionary is not a complete list of technical terms. Engineering and science are replete with terms not listed in the OED. Perhaps you should get more of a grasp of this sort of thing before you lecture others.

Gearslutz has a very enlightening thread about this dicotomy, and they concluded pretty much that "bus" is the correct spelling, and "buss" was a mispelling that strated in the 50s and came along in the audio engineering circles, but is now being abandoned, because it's incorrect. So, it should be "bus" and plural "buses". The origin of the word in the latin omnibus.

The "buss" spelling was all over the audio engineering texts I read in the 80s and 90s. Many of these were from the UK. I gather that term is also used in electrical engineering.

Here's an example:
http://www.railwaybob.com/Modules/Track ... uss01.html

No matter if it is all over. As I said, this mispelling started in the 50s, and yes, I know it's all over (I read it too, often). Yet, it is wrong, and better start using the right terminology. That has the advantage of being meaningful, since actually, a bus is a channel that carries the audio signal from somewhere to somewhere else. OTOH a buss is... ?

[egbert]

You were on the right track with "omnibus" -
adjective: omnibus 1. comprising several items.

That is the point - a bus or buss in audio terms (from the original use in audio consoles) is something that is fed by multiple sources OR is connected (eg V+ power) to multiple components. It is not about a vehicle taking you from A to B

When it comes to language, usage is usage. Who - even among the annointed on Gearslutz - is to say what is "wrong". In the UK and Australia, those funny doughnut shaped things on the outside of your car rims are called "tyres". Try looking that shit up on the internet. Seems like there are only "tires". Is one of those "wrong"? Give me a break.

[fmr]

You were on the right track with "omnibus" -
adjective: omnibus 1. comprising several items.

That is the point - a bus or buss in audio terms (from the original use in audio consoles) is something that is fed by multiple sources OR is connected (eg V+ power) to multiple components. It is not about a vehicle taking you from A to B

When it comes to language, usage is usage. Who - even among the annointed on Gearslutz - is to say what is "wrong". In the UK and Australia, those funny doughnut shaped things on the outside of your car rims are called "tyres". Try looking that shit up on the internet. Seems like there are only "tires". Is one of those "wrong"? Give me a break.

Calm down, this is not a matter of life or death. I'm not going into that "tires vs tyres", since I don't know the origin of the word. But, if you think a little, an "omnibus" (or a "bus") is a vehicle that can transport one or many passengers to one or many destinies. So, I'm (still) in the right track with bus. I agree that usage is usage, and there are words that come out with different meaning through usage, but "buss" is just a useless misspelling, that just causes confusion, besides being meaningless. OTOH "bus" has a meaning that even a beginner get easily into.

If someone that knows nothing gets in front of a mixing desk and sees "bus", I presume they will probably guess that it should be something that carries something (or several "somethings") from somewhere to somewhere. But if they see a label "buss", who would guess what that is supposed to do?

[fmr]

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[fmr]

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[LawrenceF]

The meaningless stuff people argue over. Here's Mix Magazine reviewing a "buss" compressor from Slate. Nobody cares about the extra s and everyone knows what it means.

http://mixonline.com/gear/reviews/plugi ... _new_spin/

[egbert]

I find the idea that the "miss-spelling" came about by some sort of accident a bit hilarious. Some engineer - who for some reason couldn't spell a common three letter word - somehow got his/her accidental miss-spelling past the editors at a bunch of publishers of textbooks and journals and - lo and behold - this mistake took root for decades in a range of related fields of electrical and audio engineering. I'm sure you've heard of the similar problems which befell those benighted souls in sexx therapy and dogg grooming.

You can argue that some people might want to simplify or standardise spelling - god knows, it has happened before with that Mr Webster chap. Some kinds of usage fall out of favour (sorry Mr Webster but that is how we still spell it over here). Sometimes, words which are erroneous - eg irregardless - become popular and the hitherto erroneous usage gets legitimised. Words can come to mean their own opposites overtime. The different meanings and spellings tend to accumulate though - the new and the old are recognised and all the old texts are not invalidated by a new pattern of usage.

Many words, while not perhaps strictly archaic, are simply retired through lack of use. Newspapers do not use "whom" any more in news stories - who will be used. Tenses of words are abandoned - lain as a past tense of laid, for example - the distinctions collapse so in this case laid will be used in more cases than it was before. If you find lain in a novel or a poem, you can find the meaning in the dictionary, but you won't get it past editors of new works. All part of the evolution of language.

[hibidy]

End of Summer is not far away.

Will we finally get to see S1 v.3 during October ?

that's gonna be a big NO.

[hibidy]

@spelling.

You guys make kitty scared. See, I always thought that saying "buss" clearly distinguished it from any other possible meaning.....I was under the impression that that is why we say it like that.

[urlwolf]

At this point, it may not matter if S1 v. 3 is great or not. They have lost me as a client with awful support and product. At this point, clicking the exe doesn't even start the app. Their support doesn't seem to be making any progress. Bah.

[hibidy]

I've heard more complaints about customer service in the last year than I think a company should get.

At any rate, I think the naysayers have made it pretty clear that there isn't going to be a significant upgrade anytime soon. It's either live with it the way it is or move on it seems.

[LawrenceF]

Double post.

[LawrenceF]

At any rate, I think the naysayers have made it pretty clear that there isn't going to be a significant upgrade anytime soon. It's either live with it the way it is or move on it seems.

I'm not sure why anyone only saying what appears to be just true is "naysaying". But otoh, some net forums thrive on rumor so maybe that's it, that some actually don't wanna hear the truth.

The truth in this case "appears" to be that version 3 won't be showing up anytime soon.

Otoh, if we use Bitwig's definition of "soon"' maybe so.

So... when's Reaper 5 coming out? It's been about the same time period from S1 v2. Reaper 4.0, August 2011. I guess that product is dead.

One of their developers left too, doom and gloom.

[dsan@mail.com]

The meaningless stuff people argue over.

And all these years I thought when they talked about "buss" they meant the plural of "bus"




Happy Musiking!
dsan