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Phase47 · Post by **Phase47** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:56 pm

BBFG# wrote:Don't confuse marketing sales blast with attentiveness.
Once the created frenzy is over, more may be revealed.
Urs consistently acknowledges and addresses the base.
If you can't see what's missing, you're choosing not to.

I had a crash in Logic the day of Serum's release. I emailed Steve directly and he answered back w/in 3 minutes. You will not find better customer-service anywhere.

ontol · Post by **ontol** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:01 pm

elnn · Post by **elnn** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:20 pm

BBFG# wrote:
Gamma-UT wrote:
BBFG# wrote:Then maybe they should direct all this there and not venture out where they have no such support.

Indeed.

They have a support forum and in addition to that are active here? I see the opposite of what you see

I'd very much love to see a comparison of the workflows between the two, how quicker (or slower) is it to achieve one thing or another, can anyone comment on that?

BBFG# · Post by **BBFG#** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:21 pm

In synth vs. synth:
It's too soon to tell and therefore it goes to the one with a longer and consistent history.
Company vs. company:
It goes to the one not trying to slam the other and it may find that it often causes itself to be questioned for that.

A synth I would have well considered is now left in a 'wait and see' basket is all.
And as these threads increase, so does the time in considering it's claims.

3ee · Post by **3ee** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:24 pm

Serum has great GUI and "updated" workflow
Zebra's got more modules and great flexibility.

Serum has this OSC function wave warp. (unfortunately some functions there sound kinda bad atm even in 4x oversampling mode)
Zebra has 2 spectral effect (OSCFX) slots per osc + self hardsync + PWM at the same time.

They also have quite different (subjective) sound quality.
I prefer Zebra but Serum ain't bad at all.

IMO, Zebra has better sounding filters.
Serum OTOH seems to have more quality effects.

Although I'm enjoying the Serum demo, there's no doubt in my mind that Zebra can't be compared and it's a clear winner for me.
Would love to see an updated wave/wavetable editor in Zebra asap!

Zebra3... where are you??!

FarleyCZ · Post by **FarleyCZ** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:34 pm

I have similar opinion. These two synths can't be really compared as both try to achieve different things. Having said that, the waveforme editor in Serum is amazing.

V0RT3X · Post by **V0RT3X** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:38 pm

I can see the appeal in Serum. I own Zebra2 and really enjoy using it for quick sound design, but if i felt like resampling some of my other synthesizers, could do this very easily with serum. I'm not too concerned about the filter quality since i could use something like Cytomics The Drop right after it.

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:49 pm

I'm not a Zebra fan, don't like the sound and the interface, so for me it's without doubt Serum.
But, Zebra is not a wavetable synth and Serum is not a semi-modular synth. You can compare Serum with Massive or Z3ta or you can compare Zebra with Synthmaster or Diversion.

tehlord · Post by **tehlord** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:54 pm

BBFG# wrote:For developer attentiveness, Zebra, hands down.

(Maybe the other should consider getting their own sub-forum here?)

You know that talking about a plugin isn't the sole criteria for purchase?

Zebra is awesome, Zebra can do LOADS of stuff.

Serum sounds stunning, in a way that Zebra can't really do.

Rejoice the fact that we live in an era of almost infinite choice and possibility.

Wait, why has't Waldorf been mentioned yet?

V0RT3X · Post by **V0RT3X** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:57 pm

4damind wrote:I'm not a Zebra fan, don't like the sound and the interface, so for me it's without doubt Serum.
But, Zebra is not a wavetable synth and Serum is not a semi-modular synth. You can compare Serum with Massive or Z3ta or you can compare Zebra with Synthmaster or Diversion.

Actually Zebra does allow you to create wave tables within it. Also Serum would be classified as a semi-modular with it's routing abilities.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 7:49 pm

Gamma-UT wrote:
BBFG# wrote:By numbers of threads (and their focus) they are maintaining here ATM.
And there are thread on other forums. So, what exactly is missing in terms of "attentiveness"? Or have you decided this place is the centre of the music-making universe?

lol
hilarious, you said what I was thinking better than I ever could...
lol

rsp

el-bo (formerly ebow) · Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:01 pm

ontol wrote: next post: my original post quoted, parsed, and each segment examined to determine not only am I wrong, but fat, stupid, and have hygienic deficiencies.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:32 pm

I am exploring Serum... cool synth...

I have 1 Osc active and made 4 waveforms... modulating between them they always jump from one to the next. How would I blend between them? I assume that is possible.

BBFG# · Post by **BBFG#** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:39 pm

BBFG# wrote: It's too soon to tell and therefore it goes to the one with a longer and consistent history.

A synth I would have well considered is now left in a 'wait and see' basket is all.
And as these threads increase, so does the time in considering it's claims.

What is ignored by the developer can say as much as what they don't.
Too soon to make a decision about the synth or the developer at this point.
What has and hasn't been addressed is enough to watch without jumping on is all.
Would rather wait a few months and see what you all are saying then.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:18 pm

pdxindy wrote:I am exploring Serum... cool synth...

I have 1 Osc active and made 4 waveforms... modulating between them they always jump from one to the next. How would I blend between them? I assume that is possible.

Aha... it is done in the morph menu...

Xfer Records SERUM vs. U-he Zebra2