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Robmobius · Post by **Robmobius** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:36 pm

SODDI wrote:Everyone has a lonely life. You are born alone, you live a life in the isolation of your own skull and you die alone. That's just the truth.

I could give a shit whether anyone "appreciates" what I do. I don't do it for them and they'll never hear it.

This! Couldn't give a toss what a few 'no marks' think of me or what I do.

Plus, I generally dislike the company of other people. I find them irritating or boring.

SODDI · Post by **SODDI** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:10 pm

The process of teasing "art" out of nothingness by one individual is an interesting pasttime. It's like solo chess on an infinite board with an infinite number of pieces, with rules you never learned and an unseen opponent whose moves are always in direct reaction to your own.

Most of my contemporaries are gorped out in front of the TV watching games they will never play and sucking on the tit of phony consumerism.

arkmabat · Post by **arkmabat** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:23 pm

I love going through presets. Sometimes they reflect past lives, inner worlds, hidden emotions etc. It's a trip I'd rather go on and no gas money wasted.

arkmabat · Post by **arkmabat** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:33 pm

SODDI wrote:The process of teasing "art" out of nothingness by one individual is an interesting pasttime. It's like solo chess on an infinite board with an infinite number of pieces, with rules you never learned and an unseen opponent whose moves are always in direct reaction to your own.

Most of my contemporaries are gorped out in front of the TV watching games they will never play and sucking on the tit of phony consumerism.

I feel that way all the time, too. Football and fast food. There's much more to life than that!

D.H. Miltz · Post by **D.H. Miltz** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:36 pm

OP, I've merged this thread with your other one.

arkmabat · Post by **arkmabat** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:37 pm

Music keeps me from getting lonely. It's a constant in my everchanging life. We are messengers for the unseen, whether it be through preset design, music composition, recordings, etc.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 12:24 am

Naer wrote:I feel like the only one who appreciated my work is me

Anyone feel the same way?

Seriously dude, 15 pages and very little commentary from you. Are you fishing for compliments? Do you want feedback? Who are you trying to reach, how are you trying to reach them, and what do you expect from others? Do you want money, a pat on the back? Define your expectations and you'll probably get better advice.

Naer · Post by **Naer** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 12:35 am

This thread really took off. I guess i was just venting. I like my work and wondered why people didn't see the same. Guess its just all about perspective. I make dance beats. Irony is i rarely go to events or clubs. I meant it to be bedroom music as i see it.

Naer · Post by **Naer** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 12:38 am

D.H. Miltz wrote:OP, I've merged this thread with your other one.

Thanks

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:43 am

I don't know what side of the fence to jump on anymore. I'm mellowing a bit with my elderly status, but I still love guitar oriented stuff (gambale rules! )

I don't understand why some people are popular, and I don't understand why making the EXACT SAME BEAT over and over is some form of art, but it's what people love. BTW, that guy making that same 'ol beat? Probably is a killer musician!

Mister Natural · Post by **Mister Natural** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 3:19 am

for some odd reason, I'm compelled to jump into these waters . . .
a. several really interesting comments above - some of the most well-thought-out conversations I've seen @ KVR in a while. Thanks for that
b. great, great perspectives from(no particular order) foosnark, jancivil(whether M or F, I don't care; still pleased to read your thoughts), the esteemed Hink, my friend robojam, SODDI(very to the point) and the brilliant & everpresent Hibidy
c. Art for Art's Sake : Money . . . for God's Sake
d. IMHO, these are transitional times where the money's GONE from making music & most of us grew up when the opposite was the case - that memory of getting rich with your tunes hasn't faded - one feels that if only one could only "stumble" across the right formula; the money would pour in
e. feeling "unappreciated" as an artist is part & parcel of the deal(of being an artist). Sad to say, but get used to it

peace

Aleatoriac · Post by **Aleatoriac** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 4:08 am

Hmm it's weird, yeah I'd like to make money with music - but it's just because I enjoy making music, and happen to live in a world that requires me to make money to survive. Couldn't give a toss anymore if I "make it big" for me now it's about getting better at making music.

My advice? If you feel unappreciated, just listen to all your stuff and appreciate it yourself. If you find, as I frequently do with my own material, that it is all unfinished, or there's something wrong with it, or it all sounds rather amateur, then there's plenty to do to fix that. Maybe.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 4:35 am

Mister Natural wrote: the brilliant & everpresent Hibidy

Well, one out of two

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 5:50 am

Naer wrote:This thread really took off. I guess i was just venting. I like my work and wondered why people didn't see the same.

Which "people?" Are you concerned that people don't like your music, or, are you concerned that people aren't listening to it enough to give you an opinion?

Guess its just all about perspective. I make dance beats. Irony is i rarely go to events or clubs. I meant it to be bedroom music as i see it.

"Dance beats" is very non-specific. I think that's an issue in a market that is very much defined by narrow genre borders.

mutantdog · Post by **mutantdog** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:24 am

If I go back ten years or so I was quite an active DJ and soundsystem owner. For various reasons I gave it all up, in part I became increasingly frustrated by the need to keep buying and playing the latest dancefloor/jump-up tunes just to please the crowd while the more experimental and deeper music i would rather play was often less well received.

Its only recently I've returned to production, something I know I have a talent for and also enjoy. A period of attempting to make music to fit a genre i was familiar with and a conscious attempt to try and make sellable dancefloor tracks yielded some of the most uninspired music I've ever made. I'm not even sure it was successful in its aim either, i guess I've lost that DJ vibe.

In the last month or so I've decided to go back to making whatever i feel like without any significant social, dancefloor or commercial intent. I'm inspired again and I feel i'm making the best music I've ever made. Well into my 30s now, I accept that making the music i want to make will be a very lonely experience, I'm cool with that. As an insecure artist though, recognition and appreciation of my work is still something i desire.

Nobody appreciates small time electronic music makers/electronic musician for most is a lonely life