KVR Audio

Touch The Universe · Post by **Touch The Universe** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:08 am

how would i get this to work in fl studio, do i need jbridge?

Lee702 · Post by **Lee702** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:15 am

Fast scan your plugins and look for WaveShell-VST 9.3. There is also a vst3 version of this WaveShell.

Touch The Universe · Post by **Touch The Universe** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:35 am

Cool, got it. Does codex have a multi thread option, getting crazy cpu with pads via vst3!!

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:37 am

mysticvibes wrote:Cool, got it. Does codex have a multi thread option, getting crazy cpu with pads via vst3!!

Not that I'm happy that is happening to you, but I'm glad it's not just me (I'm using live/studio one....polyphony is nuts! )

Buka · Post by **Buka** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:51 am

zerocrossing wrote:
MorpherX wrote:Codex is a copy-toy from Serum with a low quality.
You can even get out more smooth sounds from Serum than from this Kotex thingy if you know how to tweak and use Serum.
I spent a few hours with each, and there is no way you could get as rich a sounding filter and resonance with Serum as is easy to get with Codex. Yeah, you could post filter it to take off the edge, but it's not even close to being the same thing.

got some sound files to prove this mate or is it purely subjective?

Pacific05 · Post by **Pacific05** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:53 am

zerocrossing wrote:
MorpherX wrote:Codex is a copy-toy from Serum with a low quality.
You can even get out more smooth sounds from Serum than from this Kotex thingy if you know how to tweak and use Serum.
I spent a few hours with each, and there is no way you could get as rich a sounding filter and resonance with Serum as is easy to get with Codex. Yeah, you could post filter it to take off the edge, but it's not even close to being the same thing.

+1.

I found Codex more immediate and easy compared to Serum.
Serum is a great synth, but has a very edgy and sharp sound, IMO.

Touch The Universe · Post by **Touch The Universe** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:07 am

Tweaking the codex filters or other parameters barely messes with the sound. Serum is quite different. However there were some amazing patches in codex. Will have to explore further..

jantex · Post by **jantex** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:07 am

I have received Codex as a part of the Mercury update and bought Serum. Codex made me sell my Electra2 after two days of use, because it sounds warm, it blends so nicely with the music. Serum is a completely different synth, more edgy, more aggressive. So far I prefer Codex and it truly was a nice surprise and a great gift from Waves.

Muziksculp · Post by **Muziksculp** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:01 am

Hi,

Reading through this thread, I feel that

Codex vs Serum = Ear-Candy vs Eye-Candy

Great to see Wavetable Synthesis take a big step forward via Soft-Synths.

I wonder how either one of them would sound if they had added Granular-Synthesis to their Synthesis Engine.

Cheers,
Muziksculp

Dasheesh · Post by **Dasheesh** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:40 pm

Muziksculp wrote:Hi,

Reading through this thread, I feel that

Codex vs Serum = Ear-Candy vs Eye-Candy

Great to see Wavetable Synthesis take a big step forward via Soft-Synths.

I wonder how either one of them would sound if they had added Granular-Synthesis to their Synthesis Engine.

Cheers,
Muziksculp

My first thought out the gate reviewing serum was... needs a granular.

What we want as buyers is an amalgamation of the two. Something along the lines of a MODULUS in software form. Especially now that these things are going for $200 a pop. We should be getting features and sound. The serum is an icy cold machine. I think it's in the filter curve. I'm no coder and don't have any clue how difficult that is to do, but seems that it would be possible now to produce such a product.

P.S. I don't care about cpu usage when it's necessary. As long as the developer is doing all that is possible to program it well.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:50 pm

Modulus is not easily possible in software form (each voice is clocked by an individual clock, there's no global sample rate like in a DAW - a very different concept)... plus it doesn't do granular stuff at all.

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:57 pm

Muziksculp wrote:I wonder how either one of them would sound if they had added Granular-Synthesis to their Synthesis Engine.

Didn't Waves do that, at least according to their own description?

Waves wrote:Waves Codex is a cutting-edge polyphonic synthesizer based on an advanced granular wavetable engine...

Dasheesh · Post by **Dasheesh** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:28 pm

I have only played with the demo but I didn't find or see any kind of granular filter. I think it's in the way WAVES interpolates the oscillators waves. That's my guess anyway.

Dasheesh · Post by **Dasheesh** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:06 pm

Now that I think about it, that would explain a lot... like where the gritty sound of codex comes from and why you can't modulate the filters with the oscillators.

AmyTree · Post by **AmyTree** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:05 pm

I have spent some time with the demo of both of these synths and have reached the following analogy:

Codex is like a butter knife and Serum is like a steak knife.... You can spread things with a steak knife with a little care, but you will struggle to cut a steak with a butter knife.