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AdmiralQuality · Post by **AdmiralQuality** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 8:08 am

Okay, vic_france has helped me with some testing and together we've figured out what's going on. (And fortunately now we ARE seeing the same thing on our different OSX versions!)

The bank files included in the Poly-Ana 1.20 Beta 4 OSX .zip have .txt extensions on the end. Neither vic_france or I were seeing them as our Finders weren't set to always show extensions. ( Finder | Preferences | Advanced | Show all filename extensions.)

Once I turn that on, I see the .txt extensions, which is HALF the problem.

When you remove those .txt extensions, they will show as "Unix Executable File" in Finder, and will be greyed out in Poly-Ana's Open dialogs.

But you can then do the "chmod -x [filename]" in Terminal to remove that executable attribute.

The power users among you should be able to fix them yourself, but I'll upload a new distributable for OSX first thing tomorrow that will include new bank files that should work. (There won't be any changes to Poly-Ana. The problem is with these filenames and the executable attribute they unzip with.)

I've been at it for over 18 hours today though so I can't do it right now. I'm seriously about to fall out of my chair.

G'nite.

AdmiralQuality · Post by **AdmiralQuality** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:01 pm

All fixed! (I hope anyway, let us know.)

There is a new Beta 4 download now, only for OSX, called Poly-Ana_1_2_0_Beta_4a_OSX_AU_VST.zip, but nothing has changed in Poly-Ana (which will still show as Beta 4). The only thing changed in the zip distributable is the included program (.pap) and bank (.pab) files, so if you're on OSX and already downloaded Beta 4 yesterday, just grab this file from the Poly-Ana Patch Exchange to get a new copy of the included program banks: http://www.admiralquality.com/products/ ... s_v120.zip

There. I think OSX and Windows are finally at functional parity now! Back to adding the remaining NEW features...

We're still offering Poly-Ana for Half Price ($89.98 USD) for at least one more Beta update, but we're getting close to the end so time is running out. And please help spread the word, everyone. We've found nothing works as well to advertise the product as word-of-mouth.

http://www.admiralquality.com/products/Poly-Ana/

Echoes in the Attic · Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:56 pm

Yep, working now.

vic_france · Post by **vic_france** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:32 am

Fine here too. Thanks!

AdmiralQuality · Post by **AdmiralQuality** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:59 am

Wonderful!

AdmiralQuality · Post by **AdmiralQuality** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:07 am

Everyone else okay loading and saving program and bank files on the Mac? Can you read .pap and .pab files you saved yourself?

Let us know please, along with your host, version and OSX version too. (Windows people should be fine.)

Oh and known issue: Right now it doesn't prompt for confirmation for file overwrite, so be careful. We'll add that in the next Beta update, coming very soon.

ftech · Post by **ftech** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:25 am

Loading banks is working fine here now too........Logic 10.0.3, OSX 10.8.4
Thanks!

AdmiralQuality · Post by **AdmiralQuality** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:00 am

Good to hear, thanks!

There's one new feature that I've somehow neglected to mention and didn't make it into the changes list. (I can't even recall now which Beta update added it, I'll have to go back and try them all again to figure it out.)

Anyway, it's that MIDI mapping now takes MIDI channel as well as CC#. So you can now map ALL of Poly-Ana's controls (there's something like 240 of them. Far too many to fit in the 128 MIDI CC#s on a single channel).

FYI! If anybody's actually attempting this, please let us know. (Mario from http://synth-project.de should like this one! Until now he was using his host, Cantabile, to convert CCs on multiple channels into VST automation events. That particular host functionality won't be necessary now so virtually any host can be used.)

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 2:32 am

Do people actually attempt to map out all of Poly-Ana's controls by midi? That sounds nuts. How would you keep track of all of them? With all the control surfaces these days being based on automatable parameters, I'm surprised someone would go through the pain of mapping our everything by midi! With automation parameters you get the names on screens so you can keep track of everything, it's always two way, plus there's no limit with number of automation parameters anyways.

AdmiralQuality · Post by **AdmiralQuality** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 2:43 am

Echoes in the Attic wrote:Do people actually attempt to map out all of Poly-Ana's controls by midi? That sounds nuts. How would you keep track of all of them? With all the control surfaces these days being based on automatable parameters, I'm surprised someone would go through the pain of mapping our everything by midi! With automation parameters you get the names on screens so you can keep track of everything, it's always two way, plus there's no limit with number of automation parameters anyways.

This fellow did!

And you keep track of them with the MIDI-Learn feature. Makes it easy. (Granted, setting up 240 of anything isn't exactly "easy", but it could be worse.)

And MIDI controllers don't speak "automation". (And it's not two way. If you move a knob on your plug-in the knob on your hardware controller doesn't move! I wish!

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AdmiralQuality · Post by **AdmiralQuality** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:38 am

And of course Poly-Ana responds to and sends VST automation as well. So if you have a control surface thingee, it'll work as you described. (Full disclosure: I've actually never even tried one.)

I very nearly included a feature in Poly-Ana to convert incoming MIDI to outgoing automation. Had it working -- it's literally just one additional line of code. But it caused havock in some hosts so we "keep 'em separated".

fluffy_little_something · Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:48 pm

What does the display in the video show? There is no modulation matrix like with Dune etc., right?

AdmiralQuality · Post by **AdmiralQuality** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:54 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:What does the display in the video show? There is no modulation matrix like with Dune etc., right?

The display in his controller shows the Poly-Ana interface. (He's running a Mac Mini inside that beast, or maybe outside.)

http://synth-project.de/polyana_controller.html

And yes, there's essentially a modulation matrix in that all modulation destinations can choose between any of the 18 modulation sources. There are also 2 modulation mixers that allow you to add and/or multiply (ring modulate) up to 4 modulation sources together, as well as rectify them, sample and hold (staircase) them, and smooth them (Lag Filter). No shortage of modulation options on Poly-Ana!

fluffy_little_something · Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:05 pm

Yes, I know. I meant the display. Such displays are often used for modulation matrices (Dune, Saurus, etc.). That's why I was wondering what else it might show in this case.
It's a touchscreen. Makes me wonder if changing a parameter on the screen moves/synchronizes the corresponding hardware control.

Either way, that thing looks cool

AdmiralQuality · Post by **AdmiralQuality** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:15 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote: Makes me wonder if changing a parameter on the screen moves/synchronizes the corresponding hardware control.

Definitely not! (Even with normal pots, this cost him something like $3k to build!

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LAST CHANCE! Poly-Ana and L'il Poly-Ana 1.20 BETA w. OSX x64 AU support!