IKM SampleTank 3 (ST3) Now Available

[dsan@mail.com]

Give it time. The fire sales will start soon enough.

Happy Musiking!
dsan

[audiosabre]

if a person has a 'disability' then they ought to state that up front (as some do) and not use it as 'get away with crap' after the fact

I object, your honour. Although I agree that people shouldn't use their disability to 'get away with crap', the notion that one must declare his disability on a public board is utter rancid at worst, and discriminatory at best.

You do know about human rights, and the right to privacy? What you suggested goes against this fundamental principle of human values. It's a right whether one wants to disclose personal information, to anyone, at any time. Even the government.

What next, every mentally ill person should be made to wear a star? Should we declare if we have hemorrhoids up front in every thread?

Sorry, but as someone who regularly witnesses discrimination against disabled people, I feel offended by your suggestion. Thanks for listening

[dsan@mail.com]

if a person has a 'disability' then they ought to state that up front (as some do) and not use it as 'get away with crap' after the fact

I object, your honour. Although I agree that people shouldn't use their disability to 'get away with crap', the notion that one must declare his disability on a public board is utter rancid at worst, and discriminatory at best.

You do know about human rights, and the right to privacy? What you suggested goes against this fundamental principle of human values. It's a right whether one wants to disclose personal information, to anyone, at any time. Even the government.

What next, every mentally ill person should be made to wear a star? Should we declare if we have hemorrhoids up front in every thread?

Sorry, but as someone who regularly witnesses discrimination against disabled people, I feel offended by your suggestion. Thanks for listening

I don't think that is what BBFG# meant, TBH, but I do see your point audiosabre. We once had people wearing stars to show they were different now didn't we? And we all know where how that story went.

The announcement of disability came after the fact and in a manner of attempt to excuse the behavior that took place.

I understood BBFG#'s post to mean that a disability does not excuse the behavior, particularly if the excuse of disability is used to excuse the behavior, but the community may be more understanding of bad behavior if they know a disability exists.

Not that the community will dismiss the bad behavior but may be more understanding why it took place and less likely to retaliate.

I took his post as an effort to help rather than damage. I truly believe there was no effort to discriminate. I may also have an advantage as BBFG# has been around here a while and has mentioned his disability a time or two. Not in the same vein but none the less.

The internet is great isn't it. So many different ways to read the words and get different meaning from them.

Like I said, I get your point. I'm a bit sensitive to the disability issue myself

But I also got where BBFG# is coming from too.

Happy Musiking!
dsan

[BBFG#]

if a person has a 'disability' then they ought to state that up front (as some do) and not use it as 'get away with crap' after the fact

I object, your honour. Although I agree that people shouldn't use their disability to 'get away with crap', the notion that one must declare his disability on a public board is utter rancid at worst, and discriminatory at best.
You do know about human rights, and the right to privacy? What you suggested goes against this fundamental principle of human values. It's a right whether one wants to disclose personal information, to anyone, at any time. Even the government.
What next, every mentally ill person should be made to wear a star? Should we declare if we have hemorrhoids up front in every thread?
Sorry, but as someone who regularly witnesses discrimination against disabled people, I feel offended by your suggestion. Thanks for listening

Noted. The many friends with disabilities I've worked with over the years seem to always have a common respect for me though, and they've repeatedly told me it came from me not treating them 'different' or catering to their disability. Instead, they felt it refreshing that someone treated them as a human with a disability rather than a disability with a face. I certainly wouldn't want to see 'stars upon thars' placed on anyone. And I remember quite well that the round ups before that evil paragraph was implemented started with a very quiet removal of the intellectuals that could dispel it first.

What I am speaking of, is the person using their disability after the fact. If that is something they plan to do, then they ought to put it up front or understand that we don't have to treat them different. It's just too easy for people without disabilities to make the same claim and the flag that it may not be the case at all. I live in a tourist town where the con-artists are mostly of the spiritual grift and often claim some mental diagnosis only after their grift is exposed. So it's about integration, not exclusion.

[chili beans]

Anybody know where that Sampletank 3 thread went?? You know the one where everybody talked about things related to Sampketank 3. I miss that one :'(.......

[BBFG#]

Anybody know where that Sampletank 3 thread went?? You know the one where everybody talked about things related to Sampketank 3. I miss that one :'(.......

+1 And I just scan this thread waiting for news of a version update I can try.

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

This guy (I think he used to work for a somewhat household name folks may have heard of ) seems to like SampleTank 3 - video 1 was posted somewhere, possibly earlier in this thread, and #2 is below it

[AlesisVi61]

Anybody know where that Sampletank 3 thread went?? You know the one where everybody talked about things related to Sampketank 3. I miss that one :'(.......

Mediocre sounds, screwing customers.
/thread

Can you please elaborate on your statement of "screwing customers"?Do you mean to say,that ST3 wasn't all you hoped it would be(such as not being on the level of Kontakt 5)...or are you airing out some customer service-related gripe?
Just curious is all...because the service I've received from them has actually exceeded my expectations and as for the sounds...well,I knew exactly what I was getting myself into when I purchased it.
I mean...I knew I really wanted the drum,e.bass,e.guitar,acoustic guitar and the ethnic sounds,the s-t-r-e-t-c-h engine,the hardware workstation layout,the user-friendly multi-timbral functionality and the simplicity of the GUI.
What is really mediocre to me in ST3,would be the orchestral stuff(as it's all ST2 stuff)..but the variety of the presets are useful to me.
As for the synth sounds though,it's way below mediocre and in fact...the synth category is a travesty(but I have my synth needs covered thoroughly elsewhere).
One might even say that ST3 is a bit of a dead end(as I don't expect much in the way of expansion libraries,but the sampler engine does seem to have the balls to accommodate some respectable libraries..so I am somewhat hopeful).
All I really want further out of ST3,is a grade-3 orchestral library in the future and I would be quite content.

[AlesisVi61]

By the way...I have 33 Jam points,which would make my purchase of Sonik Synth 2 at about $47..which is somewhat tempting,but I heard there were bugs within ST3 with it and judging by what already exists in the synth category of ST3...I am not too hopeful about Sonik Synth's library being much better than that of ST3's factory synth sounds??

Whatever audio or video demos of Sonik Synth 2 there are,is pretty scarce and not very revealing,which leads me to deduce that Sonik Synth 2 is a complete bust also?

[Fleer]

All I really want further out of ST3,is a grade-3 orchestral library in the future and I would be quite content.

+1

[Bombadil]

By the way...I have 33 Jam points,which would make my purchase of Sonik Synth 2 at about $47..which is somewhat tempting,but I heard there were bugs within ST3 with it and judging by what already exists in the synth category of ST3...I am not too hopeful about Sonik Synth's library being much better than that of ST3's factory synth sounds??

Whatever audio or video demos of Sonik Synth 2 there are,is pretty scarce and not very revealing,which leads me to deduce that Sonik Synth 2 is a complete bust also?

Actually, I like Sonik Synth.

[AlesisVi61]

Actually, I like Sonik Synth.

Be that as it may,I am still not convinced about Sonik Synth 2's quality(assuming there is any).

[dsan@mail.com]

Actually, I like Sonik Synth.

Be that as it may,I am still not convinced about Sonik Synth 2's quality(assuming there is any).

If you like the quality of instruments in ST3, I see no reason why you will dislike the quality of Sonic Synth instruments.

It is a subjective issue, liking or not the sounds of the instruments in either, and very difficult to gauge in a forum thread.

I for one prefer the sound quality of Sonic Synth. Truth be known it is likely both SS and ST3 sound similar and may be just an issue of expectation.

I expected SS to sound like it does. I expected more from ST3 after ten years of development.

Since there is a demo of Sonic Synth 2, why not try it out for yourself to get convinced? Or not.
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/soniksynth/

Happy Musiking!
dsan

EDIT: Wanted to mention - SS is a 32 bit instrument. As for importing into ST3, follow the previous recommendations to get it to import and it will do so just fine. Of, course, I doubt you can import the demo into ST3.

HTH

[Bombadil]

Actually, I like Sonik Synth.

Be that as it may,I am still not convinced about Sonik Synth 2's quality(assuming there is any).

I know it is all subjective, but I if you've read my posts on everything IKM, you'll know I am not a fanboi... I think there are a lot of useable sounds in it, especially when layered. If bought at one of IKM's ridiculous promotion prices, it is well worth it. YMMV.

[Bombadil]

Just to report regarding my issues with ST3: it now seems to be functioning normally within my host (LPX). I don't know if it is one of the updates from IKM, or the updated driver for my FW Duet, or a combination of both, but Core Audio isn't dropping out anymore. So, I can finally enjoy this program now.