[SOLVED] Tablet help please

[soundklinik]

iPad Air or don't bother tbh.

There is a vast chasm between what android and iPad are capable of with music apps

Well, after a long research and disappointments I found an iPad 2 second generation w. 32GB like new, 3 years old for 200 euros...
Good deal or not?...
I am getting it this weekend...anything to check out iPad owners?

TIA

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

iPad Air or don't bother tbh.

There is a vast chasm between what android and iPad are capable of with music apps

Well, after a long research and disappointments I found an iPad 2 second generation w. 32GB like new, 3 years old for 200 euros...
Good deal or not?...
I am getting it this weekend...anything to check out iPad owners?

TIA

don't get an ipad2 at this stage

[soundklinik]

don't get an ipad2 at this stage

why? ..........at what stage?

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

don't get an ipad2 at this stage

why?

because, despite apple unnaturally extending it's life, it's old tech. it really depends on what you plan to use it for, but apps (and multiple permutations within audiobus etc) are more becoming more demanding.

it might be fine right now, but for how long ??

[soundklinik]

Ahh, OK, I don't know much about Apple, (pc user), still for the money, I can't get anything close in performance and quality..

I looked at hi-end Android tablets like Cube, Onda, Pipo, Ainol, even though the quad and octa CPUs @1.7-2.0 Ghz, still iPad seems to outperform them even with it's "old technology"...
I wish some apple-ipad-2 owner chimed in...
Where are they when you need them?

OK, I am not a "pro" (musically speaking) , it's for personal amusement to release my creative energies and reading ebooks and the normal stuff...

[UltraJv]

Ahh, OK, I don't know much about Apple, (pc user), still for the money, I can't get anything close in performance and quality..

I looked at hi-end Android tablets like Cube, Onda, Pipo, Ainol, even though the quad and octa CPUs @1.7-2.0 Ghz, still iPad seems to outperform them even with it's "old technology"...
I wish some apple-ipad-2 owner chimed in...
Where are they when you need them?

OK, I am not a "pro" (musically speaking) , it's for personal amusement to release my creative energies and reading ebooks and the normal stuff...

It depends what you want. My Google Nexus 7 2013 is very fast and its only 150 or less. The heat synth, Fruity loops, Caustic and audio evolution apps are cool. Im not sure what performance youre looking for? The Tablets youre quoting are no name brands. Tablets are not and never will be PCs. Having said that - The HUDL2 has the potential to run Windows 8 at 130 :

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac ... 726/review

Proper Windows 8, 10.1 inch at $200 as well :

http://www.microcenter.com/search/searc ... 670+410605

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

I wish some apple-ipad-2 owner chimed in...
Where are they when you need them?

well, i am an ipad3 owner i speak from a position of feeling that my own model is not up to the tasks i am asking of it, so i don't find it too much of a stretch to level the same criticism at the previous model

OK, I am not a "pro" (musically speaking) , it's for personal amusement to release my creative energies and reading ebooks and the normal stuff...

well, i got mine (mainly) to be able to view pdf's on a larger, portable screen. of course, i did also want to have 'fun' with music apps. thing is, once you realise what is available to you, your needs can easily grow. i find my ipad pretty glitchy when running certain apps together. latency can be adjusted etc, but tablet music is already a little to finicky, without having to do all that extra app-switching

if i were you, i'd save a little extra and try to seek out good deal on an ipad 4. skipping 3 is a good idea, as much of the extra processing power got swallowed by the new retina screen. by the way, for reading purposes, a retina screen is the better option

[Aural Chaos]

I have an ipad2, and plan on keeping it forever. I could easily overwhelm it if I try, but if I only run 1 or 2 apps on it at once, it is sufficient. I can think of maybe 3 apps, out of dozens I own, that are not quite as usable as they could be due to lack of horsepower, but even those will run if I keep the polyphony low.

There will definitely come a day when there are apps that come out that simply can't run on an ipad2, but I have so many that run fine that I'm not that sad about it.

[Wormhelmet]

I have an ipad2, and plan on keeping it forever. I could easily overwhelm it if I try, but if I only run 1 or 2 apps on it at once, it is sufficient. I can think of maybe 3 apps, out of dozens I own, that are not quite as usable as they could be due to lack of horsepower, but even those will run if I keep the polyphony low.

There will definitely come a day when there are apps that come out that simply can't run on an ipad2, but I have so many that run fine that I'm not that sad about it.

That's my story too. Usually one or two apps at a time. I'll upgrade when I have to, but haven't felt a need yet. iPad 2 is just part of my music equipment and great for being a solo instrument with apps like Beatmaker 2 or various synths or even recording into Meteor multitracker with audiobus from another app.

I think with iPad Air 2 coming out, that a little more time should see prices on original iPad Air drop considerably.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

@ aural chaos & wormhelmet. while i agree these machines are still usable for many things, i still don't think it's the best idea. there is a difference between having owned one for a while, and deciding to buy 3.5 year old tech, today

even if ios8.1 sorts out the issues for older tablets, it might be the last o.s iteration you can get. so, as early as 12 months, you may find yourselves unable to buy certain apps that will require ios 9

it might not be a huge issue for the o.p, but you never know future-proofing (which is more difficult these days), is normally good advice, as is buying the best you can afford. maybe it will be impossible for the o.p to raise more money, in which case he might just buy it and see if he thinks it worthwhile.

[Wormhelmet]

I don't disagree with that. If I absolutely couldn't wait and was seriously restricted to a few hundred max, I would still pick up the iPad 2 over a cheap android tablet and grab up as many music apps as I could that I was interested in. With the use of iTunes for backup, you would essentially never have to update. Downside is you won't get all those cool updates that dev's are putting out as hardware progresses and benefits of new iOS features, but if I was using iTunes (I don't right now, just cloud backup) I could literally freeze my iOS installation and app level where it's at.

Probably if really interested in Music specifically on a tablet, then either save up for an Air, or see how Lollipop does with lower latency on some Android tablet. Android does releases fairly frequently too and I think at least, that they have heard a buzz about latency complaints. With the latency issue lasting as long as it has, I think Android will always be a giant step behind iOS in available music apps.

[Phil999]

a Windows tablet/netbook/transformerbook is also an option. If it has USB you can use a hub for more devices. These tablets have many advantages compared to iPads: install anytime the OS you want, run desktop software, enough RAM, use any USB device, etc. There are some non-expensive models with good multicore processors and low energy consumption.

[UltraJv]

a Windows tablet/netbook/transformerbook is also an option. If it has USB you can use a hub for more devices. These tablets have many advantages compared to iPads: install anytime the OS you want, run desktop software, enough RAM, use any USB device, etc. There are some non-expensive models with good multicore processors and low energy consumption.

Indeed, this one I posted earlier (TW100) is 10.1" full Windows 8.1 for 200 :

Widescreen IPS Multi-Touch Touchscreen 16:10 10.1" 1280x800 Display
• Intel Baytrail-T Z3735D 1.33GHz Quad-Core CPU
• 2GB RAM & 32GB eMMC Flash Storage
• Windows 8.1 + Bing
• Expandable up to 64GB via microSD card

1 x Micro USB 2.0
1 x microSD Slot
1 x USB 3.0
1 x Micro HDMI
1 x 3.5mm Audio Headphone/Microphone Combo Jack

http://www.microcenter.com/search/searc ... 670+410605

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

run desktop software

i don't think this is as good as you think it will be. i've had reaktor running on my ipad, via screen sharing, and it's all good....for like 2 minutes.....(alright, make that 10)

whether it's ipad, android or windows tablets, these apps need to play to the strengths of the interface, rather than try to shoe-horn a 15" plus (minimum), point-and-click experience onto a 9" unit

[UltraJv]

run desktop software

i don't think this is as good as you think it will be. i've had reaktor running on my ipad, via screen sharing, and it's all good....for like 2 minutes.....(alright, make that 10)

whether it's ipad, android or windows tablets, these apps need to play to the strengths of the interface, rather than try to shoe-horn a 15" plus (minimum), point-and-click experience onto a 9" unit

I agree BUT you can plug Windows/Android Tablets into HDMI/USB mouse. So you can play on the move and get serious when you want to as well.