Why doesn't Sound on Sound mag. have an FL Studio section?

[trimph1]

Don't you still need some kind of musical talent to pull off what Tom Ellard and others do??

My god...just listen to them. Sheeesh.

Amazing what a man and his dog can do with FL Studio...

Gotta try that with Spring....

[Numanoid]

...cause SOS are "snobs"

FTFY

[trimph1]

Has anyone actually asked SOS, or is that too obvious?

Gee.

You mean that they have to do something?

It's easier to kvetch here...

[Kriminal]

...cause SOS are "snobs"

FTFY

So you're saying fruity loops is a poor mans host....

[Numanoid]

...cause SOS are "snobs"

FTFY

So you're saying fruity loops is a poor mans host....

I couldn't care less

[tony tony chopper]

If you mean the auditioning in Edison, then I'm aware of it, but it's still not the same as having the takes all directly in the playlist for ease of management

Perhaps you have a perfect studio in the middle of the desert, that your recordings don't require denoising, but consider that they generally do for people out there, and that it's easier to record straight in the audio editor, trim/denoise/fix it, and turn it to a clip, than record into a clip & send it to an audio editor, to get it back into the clip.
I don't think it's a sequencer's job to do destructive audio editing, and denoising is destructive (OR realtime at high CPU usage & latency, which makes no sense on a fixed source).

[LawrenceF]

It's just the net, the unnecessary drama.

It's clearly true that some tools are better suited for certain jobs than other tools. That doesn't mean either tool sucks, it just means (the stupid arguments) that some users just don't like to read discussions about that where their fave isn't always "winning" something or other.

The parables we toss around sometimes just cloud a good discussion. "It's not the tool it's the craftsman, etc, etc." There are quite literally tools that are much better positioned to do certain things better or easier or more efficiently and there is quite literally no tool that does everything as well as every other tool or product... so while the parable actually is good general philosophy to live by, it's still philosophy, the other thing is still actually true.

Like a Jeep can go places that a 'Vette can't, or get there much more easily, which doesn't make the Vette a bad or flawed car, it only makes it not a Jeep.

FL excels at a lot of things, but not everything. That goes for all of the rest of them, with no exceptions. No clue why anyone would take offense to that. I used FL inside Cubase for hip-hop beats because FL did that "much better"', not because it was hard to do in Cubase or Cubase couldn't do it at all.

[trimph1]

Oh, but Lawrence, you know that some cannot resist arguing about whose DAW is better than whose....

[sjm]

If you mean the auditioning in Edison, then I'm aware of it, but it's still not the same as having the takes all directly in the playlist for ease of management

Perhaps you have a perfect studio in the middle of the desert, that your recordings don't require denoising, but consider that they generally do for people out there, and that it's easier to record straight in the audio editor, trim/denoise/fix it, and turn it to a clip, than record into a clip & send it to an audio editor, to get it back into the clip.
I don't think it's a sequencer's job to do destructive audio editing, and denoising is destructive (OR realtime at high CPU usage & latency, which makes no sense on a fixed source).

gol, this has absolutely nothing to do with the workflow issues I'm talking about. I know you don't care, but don't pretend this is something it isn't.

[tony tony chopper]

gol, this has absolutely nothing to do with the workflow issues I'm talking about. I know you don't care, but don't pretend this is something it isn't.

Is it FL's straight-to-playlist recording that you're arguing about? I won't debate about that one, it's only there for those coming from other sequencers & not willing to change their workflow.
The way I wanted it is through Edison, that works well, and I think that's where audio's first place should be, an audio editor, at the time it still has to be edited as audio, before being sequenced.

[tony tony chopper]

(In fact, I wouldn't even recommend activating anything, the proper way to record something should be.. not to do anything. You should play your stuff, and then fetch what HAS been recorded behind your back. Edison is capable of this, it has a "logging" preset designed for this, and it eats very little to have a hidden one always running.
Of course, I can't convince anyone about this yet, but that's the way it will work everywhere in the future. You won't record anything, everything will be recorded, and you will never miss anything because you forgot to record.
It's already activated behind your back for MIDI sequences, the only reason it's still a choice for audio is that it's not 100% transparent, and it can't be done for all tracks. But ideally, "recording" wouldn't be something you activate.)

[V0RT3X]

[hibidy]

I'm a try and stay out of this now.

[datapark]

haha

i love that episode. at first i thought it was dated, but no, its just his setup. or was at the time.

[robotmonkey]

gol, this has absolutely nothing to do with the workflow issues I'm talking about. I know you don't care, but don't pretend this is something it isn't.

Is it FL's straight-to-playlist recording that you're arguing about? I won't debate about that one, it's only there for those coming from other sequencers & not willing to change their workflow.
The way I wanted it is through Edison, that works well, and I think that's where audio's first place should be, an audio editor, at the time it still has to be edited as audio, before being sequenced.

I love how always this very same topic comes up and then people who point out deficiencies or subpar features get trolled by Image-Line and especially Gol.

Gol always says that everything's ok, and there are workarounds. Or that the bugs are actually features planned by him and all that kind of stuff. But a simple look at other DAW's and you know what it is.

This is case in point. Working in Edison is not optimal. Take look at how comping and in place editing works in PT. Its hundred times better and more efficient than in FL Studio. Editing in context is a huge time saver.