LAST CHANCE! Poly-Ana and L'il Poly-Ana 1.20 BETA w. OSX x64 AU support!

[vic_france]

my time would be better spent implementing features you can hear.

You could always add some zipper noise .

[Dan_E10]

This is probably my imagination, but I've felt in the past that I could hear some kind of stepping or zipper noise on the envelopes when modulating the filter with really long decay times. When I started running my host (Sonar X2) and plug ins in 64 bit mode in win7 it was gone. When I installed the 32 bit version of Sonar recently to get access to some plug ins that won't run in 64 bit hosts, it seemed like the zippering was back in Poly Ana. I just installed the 32 bit Poly Ana beta. Definitely no zipper noise on long decay time envelopes.

Here's a question, are the midi maps from previous versions of Poly Ana incompatible with the beta? I loaded one of my midi maps I used with 1.911 and none of the assigned controls worked.

Dan

[Dan_E10]

I couldn't figure out how to use the Poly Ana FX version until recently. Maybe my problem was using Sonar. Here's what you need to do to route midi to the FX version of Poly Ana in Sonar courtesy of someone over at gearslutz

Go to the Utilities->Cakewalk Plug-in Manager menu, select the plug-in and change its Plug-In Properties by checking "Configure as synth". Then, re-scan the VST plug-ins (it may take a couple times), and it then appears in the inserts menus under Soft Synths instead of Audio FX. As far as I can tell (so far), it still works just like a normal effect plug-in, but once inserted as a Soft Synth, you can select it as an Output in the MIDI track!

Dan

[AdmiralQuality]

This is probably my imagination, but I've felt in the past that I could hear some kind of stepping or zipper noise on the envelopes when modulating the filter with really long decay times. When I started running my host (Sonar X2) and plug ins in 64 bit mode in win7 it was gone. When I installed the 32 bit version of Sonar recently to get access to some plug ins that won't run in 64 bit hosts, it seemed like the zippering was back in Poly Ana. I just installed the 32 bit Poly Ana beta. Definitely no zipper noise on long decay time envelopes.

Here's a question, are the midi maps from previous versions of Poly Ana incompatible with the beta? I loaded one of my midi maps I used with 1.911 and none of the assigned controls worked.

Dan

The envelopes definitely do not "zipper". (The code for 32 and 64 bit is exactly the same.) Can you record an example of what you're hearing as well as an example of the good version?

And the MIDI maps are supposed to be compatible with the old ones. But MIDI channel has been added to them now so maybe I messed something up. (When reading an old map it's supposed to assume channel 1.) I'll take a look at that, thanks.

[AdmiralQuality]

I couldn't figure out how to use the Poly Ana FX version until recently. Maybe my problem was using Sonar. Here's what you need to do to route midi to the FX version of Poly Ana in Sonar courtesy of someone over at gearslutz

Go to the Utilities->Cakewalk Plug-in Manager menu, select the plug-in and change its Plug-In Properties by checking "Configure as synth". Then, re-scan the VST plug-ins (it may take a couple times), and it then appears in the inserts menus under Soft Synths instead of Audio FX. As far as I can tell (so far), it still works just like a normal effect plug-in, but once inserted as a Soft Synth, you can select it as an Output in the MIDI track!

Dan

Thanks for the tip! (But how do you route audio to its input?)

[AdmiralQuality]

This is probably my imagination, but I've felt in the past that I could hear some kind of stepping or zipper noise on the envelopes when modulating the filter with really long decay times. When I started running my host (Sonar X2) and plug ins in 64 bit mode in win7 it was gone. When I installed the 32 bit version of Sonar recently to get access to some plug ins that won't run in 64 bit hosts, it seemed like the zippering was back in Poly Ana. I just installed the 32 bit Poly Ana beta. Definitely no zipper noise on long decay time envelopes.

Here's a question, are the midi maps from previous versions of Poly Ana incompatible with the beta? I loaded one of my midi maps I used with 1.911 and none of the assigned controls worked.

Dan

The envelopes definitely do not "zipper". (The code for 32 and 64 bit is exactly the same.) Can you record an example of what you're hearing as well as an example of the good version?

And the MIDI maps are supposed to be compatible with the old ones. But MIDI channel has been added to them now so maybe I messed something up. (When reading an old map it's supposed to assume channel 1.) I'll take a look at that, thanks.

One question. If you're on OSX, did you move the old MIDI map file to the new location?

[AdmiralQuality]

Yosemite users...

Did anyone have trouble creating the /Users/(You)/Library/Application Support/Admiral Quality/Poly-Ana/ folder? Is there anything tricky about it. (Like does Finder hide your user Library folder from you or something?)

I've got a customer running a Russian version of OS X Yosemite, and he's having trouble creating the folder. I'm not sure yet if that's something to do with the Russian folder names on his system, or is just some thing.

If anybody knows anything about this, please let us know. Also any tips about non-English OSX might help too. (Poly-Ana asks the operating system for the location of the User folder, so his Russian name shouldn't make a difference. And from what he's telling me, I think the Russian names are aliases to the normal English names of the folders underneath, like Library and Application Support. Could be wrong though. This is a tough one to debug remotely, given our language-gap!)

[fmr]

Yosemite users...

Did anyone have trouble creating the /Users/(You)/Library/Application Support/Admiral Quality/Poly-Ana/ folder? Is there anything tricky about it. (Like does Finder hide your user Library folder from you or something?)

I've got a customer running a Russian version of OS X Yosemite, and he's having trouble creating the folder. I'm not sure yet if that's something to do with the Russian folder names on his system, or is just some thing.

If anybody knows anything about this, please let us know. Also any tips about non-English OSX might help too. (Poly-Ana asks the operating system for the location of the User folder, so his Russian name shouldn't make a difference. And from what he's telling me, I think the Russian names are aliases to the normal English names of the folders underneath, like Library and Application Support. Could be wrong though. This is a tough one to debug remotely, given our language-gap!)

By default the Users/Library folder is hidden in the latest versions of Mac OS X. Look here for workarounds> http://www.macworld.com/article/2057221 ... ricks.html

[AdmiralQuality]

By default that folder is hidden in the latest versions of Mac OS X.

Hide the user's own folder from them. Classic Apple sauce!

Okay, so that's just in Finder, right? Is there an option they can change to see it?

And I've got him trying to make the folder in the Terminal now (still waiting to hear back from him). No issues there, right?

[fmr]

Okay, so that's just in Finder, right? Is there an option they can change to see it?

And I've got him trying to make the folder in the Terminal now (still waiting to hear back from him). No issues there, right?

Yes, and yes. See my edited post above. And it's not the Users folder, just the Library folder

[AdmiralQuality]

Okay, so that's just in Finder, right? Is there an option they can change to see it?

And I've got him trying to make the folder in the Terminal now (still waiting to hear back from him). No issues there, right?

Yes, and yes. See my edited post above. And it's not the Users folder, just the Library folder

Wonderful! Thanks so much!

[AdmiralQuality]

And the customer is now okay!

Thanks again for the help, fmr!

[Dan_E10]

The envelopes definitely do not "zipper". (The code for 32 and 64 bit is exactly the same.) Can you record an example of what you're hearing as well as an example of the good version?

And the MIDI maps are supposed to be compatible with the old ones. But MIDI channel has been added to them now so maybe I messed something up. (When reading an old map it's supposed to assume channel 1.) I'll take a look at that, thanks.

I reinstalled the 1.191 and couldn't reproduce this. Obviously it's something else I was hearing that was patch specific. I'll send you an audio file if I hear it again.

This is probably my imagination
Dan

Yep, probably.
Dan

[Dan_E10]

I couldn't figure out how to use the Poly Ana FX version until recently. Maybe my problem was using Sonar. Here's what you need to do to route midi to the FX version of Poly Ana in Sonar courtesy of someone over at gearslutz

Go to the Utilities->Cakewalk Plug-in Manager menu, select the plug-in and change its Plug-In Properties by checking "Configure as synth". Then, re-scan the VST plug-ins (it may take a couple times), and it then appears in the inserts menus under Soft Synths instead of Audio FX. As far as I can tell (so far), it still works just like a normal effect plug-in, but once inserted as a Soft Synth, you can select it as an Output in the MIDI track!

Dan

Thanks for the tip! (But how do you route audio to its input?)

So what you have to do is insert an audio track and route whatever input you want to use to it. Then insert Poly Ana FX into the track's FX bin, but make sure to select Poly Ana FX from the "synth" group rather than the "FX" group when inserting. That way it's midi input shows up as a destination. Poly Ana FX only shows up in the synth group after changing its properties above. Insert a midi track and route it to Poly Ana FX. This seems to be a general issue in Sonar with FX plug ins that use midi. It doesn't seem to apply for all FX plugins strangely.
Dan

[Dan_E10]

And the MIDI maps are supposed to be compatible with the old ones. But MIDI channel has been added to them now so maybe I messed something up. (When reading an old map it's supposed to assume channel 1.) I'll take a look at that, thanks.

I'll play with it some more. I am not on OSX, but I did move the directory where the midi map was stored.
Dan