KVR Audio

Breeze · Post by **Breeze** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:29 pm

Much better. It's interesting how on the real close-up the reflection off the knobs and switches helps them stand out against the black. It might work well here as well. But it looks like you're losing vertical height so you might have to rescale everything which might add more lines; that wouldn't be a bad thing. Visibility of the white pointers on the knobs will be critical as well.

Although better in this last version, I've decided I'm definitely a "no-glare" person: why people go out of their way to add this dash of "realism" that breaks the rule of visibility and that in the real world is nothing more than annoying and take great pains to avoid is just beyond me. If realism is important then I'd suggest detail in the knobs, switches, and properly graded reflections on them. IMO it would be more functional there.

Fonts are close enough... isn't OBXD supposed to be "inspired-by"?

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:22 pm

Wait, this striped one is going to be the new GUI? I thought it was just messing around. It's so much harder to read and look at than the nice light blue current version. Will there be an option to replace the background with just the plain solid light blue like it currently is? Or white or anything other than these stripes?

Breeze · Post by **Breeze** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:06 pm

Echoes in the Attic wrote:Wait, this striped one is going to be the new GUI? I thought it was just messing around. It's so much harder to read and look at than the nice light blue current version. Will there be an option to replace the background with just the plain solid light blue like it currently is? Or white or anything other than these stripes?

Relax! It's just an unofficial GUI that Layzer and Maomoondog were working on for the the previous OBXD version. I suppose it may make it as an alternate GUI but I'd be screaming too if it was the next official one!!

You could call this "Pre-GUI Warmup Action" leading up to the inevitable real GUI discussion. But maybe we need to keep a close eye on this...

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:17 pm

layzer wrote:

the only real difference i see in the current font, compared to the obx-a font is the rounded E and L letters...
so, just for you i hand rounded them... open it in a new tab to see the striking similarity!

Hmmm... can you try bolding the font on all the labels? And use it for section labels as well? Parameter labels are kinda thin and they don't stand out as much as they should IMHO.

Breeze · Post by **Breeze** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:32 pm

EvilDragon wrote:Parameter labels are kinda thin and they don't stand out as much as they should IMHO.

You could cheat and just put black background under the letters... it would make it easier to place them anywhere.

fluffy_little_something · Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:04 pm

I can hardly read any of the smaller labels, they look out of focus and fuzzy

Maybe it is a psychological thingy. On the hardware the top and bottom of the letters don't overlap with the blue lines, with the gui so far the letter do overlap with the blue lines, or at least touch, can't really tell...

beely · Post by **beely** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:21 pm

Nice to see some movement on the gui. I'm not going to weigh in with design input, but the most obvious things that I'd draw attention to is the text in general looks really poorly rendered - is that gui image resized for the forum at all?

The aliasing on the "D" of the main OB-XD is poor (look at the top and bottom of the "D"), the kerning is very poor on the "Virtual Analog Synthesizer" underneath and looks bad, and in general the text labels look rough and poorly rendered - it feels "cheap", rather than "expensive".

If the image is roughly resized, then that would explain it perhaps...

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:35 pm

One issue I can see is that the white don't overlaps the blue stripes, you can see that on the hardware this isn't the case; the text stays on the black in between the stripes. This leads to a potential problem: at it's current size, that means making the already difficult to read text smaller (it's small on the hardware) or increasing the distance between the stripes, which actually decreases the contrast. The only thing I can think of is making the UI a bit bigger, but I'm not sure what that would entail. Probably not feasible for an alternate skin.

That said, when it comes time for the real v2 GUI, I'd say you got plenty of space, make the UI bigger to accommodate the new features.

Spitfire31 · Post by **Spitfire31** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:46 pm

But whatever is the reason for struggling to make a GUI, that works reasonably well (though even that is debatable) for a big physical object, work on a small screen?

I don't think that this particular imitation works at all well from a readability and utilitarian POW. The fine print is all but illegible (I downloaded the image so that I could judge it at screen resolution).

And "PULS" should still be 'PULSE', making that line even more crowded.

/Joachim

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:33 am

beely wrote: I'm not going to weigh in with design input

please don't because anything you say is a bunch of BS

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:39 am

this is the final OBX-A gui. i'm not going to spend anymore time on is as it looks good to me
and it has Moamoondog's approval. if you would like like it, hit me with an email where to send
latest x32&x64 DLLs enjoy

edit: keep in mind the x64 version in the zip file i send is NOT cpu optimized, 2DAT only
released the v1.1 cpu optimized version in x32. sorry bout that.

fluffy_little_something · Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:43 am

Awesome

I hope you won't get into legal trouble

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:47 am

fluffy_little_something wrote:Awesome I hope you won't get into legal trouble

nahhhh.... the white text overlaps the blue lines. that doesn't occure on Oberheim's synth. world of difference!

bftucker · Post by **bftucker** » Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:57 am

layzer wrote: this is the final OBX-A gui. i'm not going to spend anymore time on is as it looks good to me
and it has Moamoondog's approval. if you would like like it, hit me with an email where to send
latest x32&x64 DLLs enjoy

I for one like-like it. Message sent! And thanks for "holding the line" on "puls"

olikana · Post by **olikana** » Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:59 am

layzer wrote:
this is the final OBX-A gui. i'm not going to spend anymore time on is as it looks good to me
and it has Moamoondog's approval. if you would like like it, hit me with an email where to send
latest x32&x64 DLLs enjoy

wow love it!!!

does it include the new features?
I'll pm you the email, but can't it be uploaded somewhere?

btw I see the Depth knob in the modulation section is still labelled incorrectly as Pitch.
on the OBX and OBXa it is labelled correctly as "Depth". the knob controls the depth/amount of modulation (& not only the depth of pitch modulation but also of filter modulation). having it labelled "Pitch" makes no sense.

Obxd synthesizer