Why doesn't Sound on Sound mag. have an FL Studio section?

[Kriminal]

I think this 'famous person/power user' focus is for young people, actually.

Yep, the easily influenced....

do you know what the top 10 most expensive guitars have in common? Names. And I don't think that any kid has bought a $1-million guitar.

Most expensive doesnt equal most sales.... ppl buy what they can afford....a kid isnt going to buy a £500 guitar to learn how to play.

[Mivo]

I think this 'famous person/power user' focus is for young people, actually.

I feel that it is more of an appealing aspect for inexperienced or skill-plateauing people, regardless of how old they are.

[Hink]

I am my own man with my own style and the intelligence to decide what gear fits me best.

& how do you decide what works best - do you buy everything just to try it?
Generally people have a goal in mind, and look at the tools out there that have been used to achieve similar goals. If a tool allowed doing something, then you know that you can do it too. Another tool may or may not allow the same thing, but it's a risk to take.

I do not pay for names and I wont pay for pay for names² like signature models of guitars and other gear.

you're talking about paid sponsorship again, this is not. There are DJs in that list that make more money in 2 hours that I would make in my entire life, so if you think there's anything we could give them to endorse FL..

my first host was FL though really it was cakewalk home studio 9 (or as I use to call it "crapwalk home toilet"), I bought that when I got my first real computer in 2000 and I was using my Akai DPS 12 HD recorder. I wanted midi to control the DPS 12, I did not have any vsti's and I wasn't using cakewalk as a host. When I worked in retail I handled HD recorders and such, the computer was not my thing but I did sell Acid a lot to parents waiting on their kids lessons to finish and I thought it was fun.

While working with cakewalk I wanted to learn how to make my own loops because there was more I could get out of cakewalk and I knew it. As a newbie to computers then I didn't know there were other things on the disk and that's where I found FL ( I knew of it through retail but didn't know it), also CE2K was on that disk which became my mastering software. I started with the cheapest FL at the time, it wasn't enough so I upgraded to the next tier which wasn't enough yet (sorry do not remember those names ) and then I finally upgraded to FL Producer (this was around 2002). So that's how I learned FL and when Adobe bought Cool Edit I got the bargain upgrade to AA. But then from there, like krim says, I used demo's to learn what was best for me.

As for what I highlighted in bold, you're absolutely 100% correct and if you read my post you will see that I did not ever say these were paid endorsements and I in fact said that FL doesn't need that anyhow as it and can stand on it's own merits, is a great (or maybe I said good, too lazy to check) value. So exactly what have I said that should bother anyone at IL? I have always been supportive of FL, I am appreciative of FL, I dont bash FL, yet when I dare mention the few things that dont fit with me all the rest goes out the door. IL gets defensive, even when I praise FL.

I wont apologize for growing in my passion since 2002 and discovering what works best for me, as it is I am not alone but I still am not one of those attacking FL, just stating my experience. I do not get why IL cannot respect that, I show IL respect (note I said IL, not you) why doesn't IL show me respect as well and understand that. No DAW is perfect, no person is perfect, nothing is perfect and especially nothing is perfect for everyone. I just dont get it, I dont have the right to respectfully state my opinion and my experience here? I surely say more good things about FL, but I guess IL has a very short memory or something because like I said that goes right out the door.

[trimph1]

No, you try it first. Either in a shop, or download a demo if its software. Pretty obvious really.

What can you know from trying something for a few minutes in a shop?

You cant, thats why you spend much longer trying it, and going back a few times to keep trying it.

Precisely. I am lucky that we have some music stores here that allow for that.

There are also demos as well.

[basslinemaster]

Just leafing through this month's SOS mag (March 2015), and there is a huge article called 'Flex your loops: create loops that work at any tempo', eight and a bit pages long. Longer than most reviews they have ever done. So presumably this is 'dance oriented' (mainly), as I presume most users of loops are producing dance music (note I didn't say 'all'). Yet they can't seem to even mention FL Studio.
On the bottom of the cover it still says "Technique: Sonar/Logic/Pro Tools/Live/Reason/Studio One". But apparently FL Studio isn't 'pro' enough for them.

[whyterabbyt]

But apparently FL Studio isn't 'pro' enough for them.

Yeah, that's undoubtedly it. Well deciphered.

[basslinemaster]

To give another example, they have another huge article called "Back in black: the restoration of the Half'A'Tron" which is six or seven pages long - all very interesting, but is it as interesting as a review of FL Studio 11 would be? Wouldn't more people be interested in reading a review of FL Studio 11? But don't tell me - people who buy SOS aren't FL Studio users, and then we have the vicious circle again.
This is no big deal, it's just interesting to see how a few (or maybe even one) person/people gets to decide what people hear about a certain DAW. Personally I've found FL Studio to be outstanding, most importantly its piano roll, which other DAWs don't even bother trying to emulate, instead preferring to continue to give their users a half-hearted piano roll which is a pain to use.

[Kriminal]

Teenagers dont buy SOS mag.

[T-CM11]

... it's just interesting to see how a few (or maybe even one) person/people gets to decide what people hear about a certain DAW. ...

I heard there was something called The Internet too... or maybe it's called Cyberspace... anyway, probably just rumors.

[whyterabbyt]

To give another example, they have another huge article called "Back in black: the restoration of the Half'A'Tron" which is six or seven pages long - all very interesting, but is it as interesting as a review of FL Studio 11 would be?

yes.

[She Changed Her Mind]

It just means FL Studio doesn't need SOS to place their ads. Get the picture?

[basslinemaster]

To give another example, they have another huge article called "Back in black: the restoration of the Half'A'Tron" which is six or seven pages long - all very interesting, but is it as interesting as a review of FL Studio 11 would be?

yes.

I think more people would want to read a review of FL Studio 11, than the Half-A-Tron article, due to the large number of users of FL Studio, and other DAWs...

It's very interesting to see the same old names coming on here and 'white knighting' SOS, without much of a rational argument. I listed two BIG articles in SOS this month, one of which you have all ignored - the loops one. Presumably that's for dance music producers? But FL Studio isn't 'good enough' for SOS because it isn't good for recording audio?

[basslinemaster]

To give another example, they have another huge article called "Back in black: the restoration of the Half'A'Tron" which is six or seven pages long - all very interesting, but is it as interesting as a review of FL Studio 11 would be?

yes.

I think more people would want to read a review of FL Studio 11, than the Half-A-Tron article, due to the large number of users of FL Studio, and other DAWs...

It's very interesting to see the same old names coming on here and 'white knighting' SOS, without much of a rational argument. I listed two BIG articles in SOS this month, one of which you have all ignored - the loops one. Presumably that's for dance music producers? But FL Studio isn't 'good enough' for SOS because it isn't good for recording audio?

Sorry - somehow posted the same thing twice, and don't think I can delete it.

[whyterabbyt]

I think more people would want to read a review of FL Studio 11, than the Half-A-Tron article, due to the large number of users of FL Studio, and other DAWs...

Feel free to think that. Im pretty sure SOS know their audience demographic by now, and whether the Half-A-Tron article will appeal to that or not.

Im also sure more people would want to read articles about how to reproduce some random supersaw sound like what Deadmau5 once used than the article on the recording of Hit the North, or a review of the Opus 3 master tapes, but SOS seems to keep its readership anyway, consisting as it does of people who want to read the latter articles

It's very interesting to see the same old names coming on here and 'white knighting' SOS, without much of a rational argument.

OTOH, its not that interesting to see the same old names still here and complaining that SOS doesnt fawn over their favourite toys without a rational argument.

I listed two BIG articles in SOS this month, one of which you have all ignored - the loops one. Presumably that's for dance music producers? But FL Studio isn't 'good enough' for SOS because it isn't good for recording audio?

A 'rational argument', since that was mentioned, would not include not making silly suppositions about the rationale for what articles a publication includes, or sulking regularly because one's favourite toy isnt headlined.
And, as was pointed out in post 3, 20 pages of whinging ago, if you actually want to find out their rationale, and possibly even change it, their own forums would be the appropriate place to do so, rather than hoisting up the chip on your shoulder for yet another whirl round KVR.

[GaryG]

I'm sure I've said this before (maybe even in this thread, can't be arsed to look... ) but it comes down to available writers too. If SoS can't find somebody to write pretty indepth articles every month then they can't cover it. Same thing happened to Reaper, covered for a while and maybe a bigger user base than some of the other DAWs that are covered but if you don't have someone who knows it inside out to write the articles... Maybe FL doesn't have the kind of user base that has the... 'traditional' studio skills that would inform the kind of article SoS want..?

Also, in the context of SoundOnSound and it's clear history of audio recording and studio technology, *I think* it's readership would be more interested in the halfatron article than a DAW that's still more popular in 'dance music' circles (I believe). I don't know if Future or Computer Music cover it much? A much better fit I'd have thought.