Title pretty much sums it up.
I understand theory, have a full chord library and know how to build them. Not in real time for each scale but I dont really want to sit down and learn 12 scales right now so I'll just learn each scale as I go depending on what key the accapella is in. The first step to remixing I think would be getting your chords down to base everything else off. So I just want to be able to play all the chords in real time along with the accapella and know which chords to use/which scale, etc.. I understand theory so it pretty much just comes to to whats the best way to learn this on the piano to train and establish muscle memory. Obviously practice, but practice techniques? I really have no idea how to train piano haha. Learn a bunch of random songs?
Also what's the easiest way to determine the key an accapella is in? Once I know the key of the accapella it becomes a lot easier to just trial and error chords in that key. But I'm having trouble determining key.
Best way to learn how to play chords under an Accapella/ determine its key?
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- KVRian
- 1002 posts since 1 Dec, 2004
Play a note along on a recorder (or any small convenient instrument you keep along like a melodica or a ukulele). If it sounds like it's the song's key, you've found it. If it sounds like the 5th, then try the note down a 5th. If it sounds like a 3rd, try the note down a 3rd. And so on. It should only take a few tries.DBK wrote:Title pretty much sums it up.
I understand theory, have a full chord library and know how to build them. Not in real time for each scale but I dont really want to sit down and learn 12 scales right now so I'll just learn each scale as I go depending on what key the accapella is in. The first step to remixing I think would be getting your chords down to base everything else off. So I just want to be able to play all the chords in real time along with the accapella and know which chords to use/which scale, etc.. I understand theory so it pretty much just comes to to whats the best way to learn this on the piano to train and establish muscle memory. Obviously practice, but practice techniques? I really have no idea how to train piano haha. Learn a bunch of random songs?
Also what's the easiest way to determine the key an accapella is in? Once I know the key of the accapella it becomes a lot easier to just trial and error chords in that key. But I'm having trouble determining key.
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- KVRian
- 543 posts since 24 Jul, 2008 from a small city in a small country in the antipodes
what's a 'chord library' ?
Anyway, back to your question...
Some really good musicians couldn't do what you ask. In the classical world, you play what's written, more or less. Some quite accomplished instrumentalists are hopeless unless they have sheet music in front of them. So, if your ear is not up to the task yet, maybe you can get hold of the sheet music?
Also, and I know this is a major generalisation, but it''s quite likely that whatever the last chord is, is the key. It's the first place to start, I'd suggest.
Anyway, back to your question...
Some really good musicians couldn't do what you ask. In the classical world, you play what's written, more or less. Some quite accomplished instrumentalists are hopeless unless they have sheet music in front of them. So, if your ear is not up to the task yet, maybe you can get hold of the sheet music?
Also, and I know this is a major generalisation, but it''s quite likely that whatever the last chord is, is the key. It's the first place to start, I'd suggest.
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
I never knew those 'accomplished musicians'. I've played with a couple very accomplished classical musicians off of scores, and would have nothing to go on directly regarding their 'play by ear' skills, but everyone was required to do sight singing in their theory class, a part of the course that *is* designed to locate your ear. These were people that were kind of high falutin' and cared about their grades, I think they do well on that bit as well as 'applied instrument'.
The one guy that I was in a jam session with at SFCM, wasn't too sensitive that day but yrs down the line I saw him onstage with Bela Fleck and the Flecktones. I don't think people that have no clue are really very accomplished, personally.
I think it's truly basic to recognize what your key is.
I notice a couple of things here: 'remixing'; 'accapella'/sic; 'don't want to learn 12 scales right now'; and 'learn a bunch of random songs?'...
You're a budding producer yet this is a problem of musicianship. Yes, you absolutely should learn a lot of songs, or pieces of music and learn about principles in the context of music. Learn about intervals in harmonies in music done by people with mastery of it. Pick the melodies off the recordings by ear; determine what the chords are to some music by ear. Realize it's going to take a minute.
The one guy that I was in a jam session with at SFCM, wasn't too sensitive that day but yrs down the line I saw him onstage with Bela Fleck and the Flecktones. I don't think people that have no clue are really very accomplished, personally.
I think it's truly basic to recognize what your key is.
I notice a couple of things here: 'remixing'; 'accapella'/sic; 'don't want to learn 12 scales right now'; and 'learn a bunch of random songs?'...
You're a budding producer yet this is a problem of musicianship. Yes, you absolutely should learn a lot of songs, or pieces of music and learn about principles in the context of music. Learn about intervals in harmonies in music done by people with mastery of it. Pick the melodies off the recordings by ear; determine what the chords are to some music by ear. Realize it's going to take a minute.