Something is cooking: RAGNAROK - RELEASED !!!

[crimsonwarlock]

Here is the bottom line:

"it's what it is [...] YES, I made the GUI this way because I like it (a lot) and it inspires me."

If money is the only motive the GUI designer could think of for taking the users, or potential users, issues into serious consideration - he'll naturally state that it's a freeware.

As such he simply don't have to care - take it or leave it.

However - if the designer could think of other motives. other then money, personal taste etc, he would naturally be interested in taking users or potential users issues into serous consideration.

Different designer have different attitudes and different motives. It's simple a matter of the nature of the designer.

Nope, HERE is the bottom line:

If a designer makes certain decisions, being it in freeware or even commercial stuff, it is in the end the designers call how to go about that. Now, when a small (actually just a few) people don't like the decisions made by the designer, they tend to be the screamers that attract all the attention, totally ignoring the fact that the designer has (probably, but only the designer knows that) made decisions based on 'other' things that are deemed important to the designer. And yes, no matter it being freeware or commercial, adding additional support for a small group of people simply does take additional time and effort, and the designer (and developer likewise) have again make decisions as to how to go about it. And if they decide not to add those requested features, it should be simply 'that'.

Now, the fact that it IS freeware does bring one important dynamic to the issue: when you buy software, in most cases you pay for the option to have updates and might expect support. However, when someone is GIVING you something for free, you are not somehow entitled to something, besides the simple fact that you should say 'thank you'.

And somehow the 'bitching crowd' totally failed to pick up on the fact that Björn and myself are already addressing the issue discussed. I can tell you that the continuing whining does certainly not inspire us to so.

So, this part of the discussion has run it's course. I'll leave it at that.

[DrewDale]

I know I asked a couple of pages back, but how about a Crimson-Bucket-Drum Machine ?

[eidenk]

I hacked my own personal variation, due to fading eyesight.

Nice colorscheme Although there are a few issues, like the function buttons being inverted (they look like they are pressed in) and the flip switches not having the dark background. But for a quick hack (I pretty much see what you did, because of the omissions) it's not bad at all.

It's just a negative of 1.png which takes 2 seconds to do but is not bad overall indeed, with another 10/15 minutes I achieved this which I think is quite OK.



If you give me permission I can upload the 3 pngs I modified so anybody who prefers a dark skin can have one.

And btw I sure don't do this to please the people who insulted you but but just because I happen to prefer this dark color scheme (purely for aesthetical reasons).

[sfd]

[Nope, HERE is the bottom line:

If a designer makes certain decisions, being it in freeware or even commercial stuff, it is in the end the designers call how to go about that. Now, when a small (actually just a few) people don't like the decisions made by the designer, they tend to be the screamers that attract all the attention, totally ignoring the fact that the designer has (probably, but only the designer knows that) made decisions based on 'other' things that are deemed important to the designer. And yes, no matter it being freeware or commercial, adding additional support for a small group of people simply does take additional time and effort, and the designer (and developer likewise) have again make decisions as to how to go about it. And if they decide not to add those requested features, it should be simply 'that'.

Now, the fact that it IS freeware does bring one important dynamic to the issue: when you buy software, in most cases you pay for the option to have updates and might expect support. However, when someone is GIVING you something for free, you are not somehow entitled to something, besides the simple fact that you should say 'thank you'.

And somehow the 'bitching crowd' totally failed to pick up on the fact that Björn and myself are already addressing the issue discussed. I can tell you that the continuing whining does certainly not inspire us to so.

So, this part of the discussion has run it's course. I'll leave it at that.

"It doesn't matter which decisions lead to this particular design"

"..decisions based on 'other' things that are deemed important to the designer"

In this case: "I made the GUI this way because I like it (a lot) and it inspires me.""

Enlightening.

""when you buy software, in most cases you pay for the option to have updates and might expect support."

imitations of the motivation is the taste and money.

And in this care when it's a freeware, as if freeware is analogous to these restraints, the designer will naturally state: " it IS freewar".

And just to underline the limitations and restraints of the designer's motivations: "when someone is GIVING you something for free, you are not somehow entitled to something, besides the simple fact that you should say 'thank you'."

Different designers have different views and motivations. It's a question of the nature of the designer.

[Full Bucket]

I know I asked a couple of pages back, but how about a Crimson-Bucket-Drum Machine ?

Thanks for the kind request! Now I hate to disappoint you but currently I have no plans for such a thing . Let me explain why and, by the way, let folks know about my motives for creating freeware:

• The stuff to develop (instrument, effect, you name it) and/or it's underlying principles/problems have to enthrall me.
• I have the strong believe that I myself will use this stuff e.g. to make music.

In my everyday life I'm developing software for a specific group of users but not for myself (well, except for the money...). In my free time, I myself am the user of the software I create. If I believe that other folks might be intersted in it, too, I will release it as freeware.
Some folks give feedback and/or ask for things they'd like to have. If I like it I'll do it. CrimsonWarlock was clever: He presented me a synth concept that was exactly what I would have loved to do. Even more clever: Now he belongs to the inner target user group, too!
Now you know what you have to do to make me do a drum machine.

@Maomoondog & eidenk: Very nice, thanks!

Cheers, Björn

[crimsonwarlock]

If you give me permission I can upload the 3 pngs I modified so anybody who prefers a dark skin can have one.

And btw I sure don't do this to please the people who insulted you but but just because I happen to prefer this dark color scheme (purely for aesthetical reasons).

Thanks for the vote of support to us ... and as both Björn an I have stated, we have no problem if graphics get published and people hack their copy, as long as the hacked DLL is NOT redistributed (in line with the user licence)

[EvilDragon]

I'd like those PNGs, if I may

[DrewDale]

I'd like those PNGs, if I may

Me too please.

[eidenk]

I'd like those PNGs, if I may

I've further edited it to darken the bottom elements and it now looks like this (final as far as I am concerned):



Here are the (now 4) pngs to replace: http://www.datafilehost.com/d/93623e81 (untick the "use our download manager" before clicking on the download button)

[eidenk]

If you give me permission I can upload the 3 pngs I modified so anybody who prefers a dark skin can have one.

And btw I sure don't do this to please the people who insulted you but but just because I happen to prefer this dark color scheme (purely for aesthetical reasons).

Thanks for the vote of support to us ... and as both Björn an I have stated, we have no problem if graphics get published and people hack their copy, as long as the hacked DLL is NOT redistributed (in line with the user licence)

Thanks!

[Numanoid]

To replace the PNG in the dll file, you state it can be done with Reshacker, then you mean Resource Hacker right?:

http://www.angusj.com/resourcehacker/

[Kriminal]

Yep

[Numanoid]

Ufortunately, I'm not getting it to work.

I load the Ragnarok.dll in Reshack

I go to data folder 1, and right click on the 1033 in that folder, and choose replace from the menu that comes up

I then click "open file..." and select the 1.png file from Eidenk, and click replace.

But nothing happens?

I'm not sure if I am writing the right info into the fields:

Resource Type: PNG
Name: 1
Resource Language:1033

I looked at a tutorial here, but could manage to solve it:
http://www.askvg.com/tutorial-all-about ... -tutorial/

[fmr]

Ufortunately, I'm not getting it to work.

I load the Ragnarok.dll in Reshack

I go to data folder 1, and right click on the 1033 in that folder, and choose replace from the menu that comes up

I then click "open file..." and select the 1.png file from Eidenk, and click replace.

But nothing happens?

I'm not sure if I am writing the right info into the fields:

Resource Type: PNG
Name: 1
Resource Language:1033

Resource Type is DATA

[Numanoid]

Resource Type is DATA

Great tip, then it work

I guess it is logical that the Resource Type should be DATA as it is in the DATA subfolder, but I stumbled on which kind of file I was replacing....

This new skin looks great, thanks for sharing