This isn't the first time a v2 of an instrument breaks compatibility with earlier versions patches. Actually, it happened countless times before, even recently. And it's not like v1 stops working. I bet we can have both installed at the same time (it works like that with all iZotope plug-ins).Ben H wrote:Sounds to me like they are saying: "don't blame *us* if they don't sound the same and don't expect us to fix it either."Sampleconstruct wrote:What does this supposed to mean:
"may need to be", did they test this, could they be more clear, does it depend on the weather or the time-zone I live in?Iris 1 patches can be loaded in Iris 2, but because of all the new features in Iris 2, some parameters (like Modulation and sample locations) may need to be reassigned.
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Fernando (FMR)
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- 2233 posts since 28 Jul, 2003
Yeah, I know.
But can you imagine the shit-storm say NI would cop, for example, if they told users that if they update to the latest version of Kontakt, their sounds might not sound the same anymore.
But can you imagine the shit-storm say NI would cop, for example, if they told users that if they update to the latest version of Kontakt, their sounds might not sound the same anymore.
My main tools: Kontakt, Omnisphere, Samplemodeling + Audio Modeling. Unify = godsend. Tari's libraries also rock.
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- 16732 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
I could live with a sound difference, but manually reassigning modulation and FX routings to hundreds of patches is just not realistic time- and energy-wise, with FX plugins it's not such a mess, because not so many people rely on FX presets, but with instruments like Iris it's not a minor problem anymore.Ben H wrote:Yeah, I know.
But can you imagine the shit-storm say NI would cop, for example, if they told users that if they update to the latest version of Kontakt, their sounds might not sound the same anymore.
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- 37374 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
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- 2233 posts since 28 Jul, 2003
Yeah, I understand where you are coming from.Sampleconstruct wrote:
I could live with a sound difference, but manually reassigning modulation and FX routings to hundreds of patches is just not realistic time- and energy-wise, with FX plugins it's not such a mess, because not so many people rely on FX presets, but with instruments like Iris it's not a minor problem anymore.
My main tools: Kontakt, Omnisphere, Samplemodeling + Audio Modeling. Unify = godsend. Tari's libraries also rock.
- KVRAF
- 11162 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
This is something worthing investigation before saying more, I guess. iZotope may very well have messed up the modulations, but at first sight I can't see why should they do that. If they just added modulations, the old ones "should" be there work as before (unless they removed them, which, again, I don't see a reason to). The fact that they give no guarantees doesn't imply, necessarily, that things will not work. Let's try out and see.Sampleconstruct wrote: I could live with a sound difference, but manually reassigning modulation and FX routings to hundreds of patches is just not realistic time- and energy-wise, with FX plugins it's not such a mess, because not so many people rely on FX presets, but with instruments like Iris it's not a minor problem anymore.
I think these statements about giving no guarantes have something to do with the "legal paranoia" that seems to be attacking the US society.
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Fernando (FMR)
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- 1895 posts since 13 Oct, 2002
Technically, if the patch format from 1 can be loaded into 2 at all, there's no reason why they couldn't provide a conversion utility for the transition or even built in. I'm not at my comp right now but if the patch isn't encoded as to be illegible it should be possible to engineer this utility by a third party.Sampleconstruct wrote:What does this supposed to mean:
"may need to be", did they test this, could they be more clear, does it depend on the weather or the time-zone I live in?Iris 1 patches can be loaded in Iris 2, but because of all the new features in Iris 2, some parameters (like Modulation and sample locations) may need to be reassigned.
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- 16732 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
Sure, it's all based on assumption right now, I have to overcome myself first to test v2 thoughfmr wrote:This is something worthing investigation before saying more, I guess. iZotope may very well have messed up the modulations, but at first sight I can't see why should they do that. If they just added modulations, the old ones "should" be there work as before (unless they removed them, which, again, I don't see a reason to). The fact that they give no guarantees doesn't imply, necessarily, that things will not work. Let's try out and see.Sampleconstruct wrote: I could live with a sound difference, but manually reassigning modulation and FX routings to hundreds of patches is just not realistic time- and energy-wise, with FX plugins it's not such a mess, because not so many people rely on FX presets, but with instruments like Iris it's not a minor problem anymore.
I think these statements about giving no guarantes have something to do with the "legal paranoia" that seems to be attacking the US society.
- KVRAF
- 1645 posts since 12 Dec, 2012 from Switzerland
No, it's not. 50 would have been suuuupah, or 70.MillerSam wrote:Great to see this but the price for the upgrade is not very small for existing user :S
But at least this time it is an UPgrade
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- KVRAF
- 1966 posts since 22 Mar, 2002 from Timisoara, Romania
anyone could tell me if the v1 big problem of clicks in Control/Pitch/(one of the modes clicked - i dont remember the exact one) is gone?
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- KVRAF
- 1757 posts since 21 Dec, 2012
but when I see that you get Iris 2 for 167 dollar on JRR and wee pay 99 dollar for upgrade
Between 50-70 are good
Between 50-70 are good
- KVRist
- 303 posts since 8 Dec, 2011 from Lebbeke, Belgium
+1, absolutely right, 50% of RTP is really expensive for an upgrade.MillerSam wrote:but when I see that you get Iris 2 for 167 dollar on JRR and wee pay 99 dollar for upgrade
Between 50-70 are good
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- 1645 posts since 12 Dec, 2012 from Switzerland
MillerSam wrote:but when I see that you get Iris 2 for 167 dollar on JRR and wee pay 99 dollar for upgrade
Between 50-70 are good
That hurts...
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- 1645 posts since 12 Dec, 2012 from Switzerland
That depends on the amount of new featuresAlias9593 wrote:+1, absolutely right, 50% of RTP is really expensive for an upgrade.
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- 16732 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
So I caved, installed the demo, tried to import a patch from my subscription library: error message: Preset Import failed. Check to see if a preset with the same name already exists. LOL*****F**CK

