Omnisphere - worth $500?

[lnikj]

But you know that several members, arguing both for and against, are really Eric Persing

[neverenoughfunk]

Let me ask this...

If Spectrasonics gave a bundle price of
Omni/Trilian/RMX for say,
$649.00 MSRP with a MAP at $599.00
In Cart pricing becoming $539.00
(Noting they would be bought as a bundle and couldn't be sold after except as a bundle.)

Who would jump on that?
I might.

you know if you updated from atmosphere to omnisphere it is only $249... you do own atmosphere... right?

not sure how you could complain about that...

for some... that would be a no-brainer... even without a demo...

you have brought software that does not even run on your machine... right? was there a demo?

what i find is a lot of your posts you are knit-picking... the littlest thing is a no-go...

just hope your better half live up to your expectations... the same way you want your software to...

[ghettosynth]

If some people would actually spend the time they burn by debating about Omniwhatever, working on something productive they could all afford ten Omnis and some.

Absolutely true, could be applied to so many threads. But then, i can understand why people like to argue about certain things. What i don't understand is arguing for the arguing's sake though, and producing nothing productive.

I think that's in the eye of the beholder. My choice regarding Omnisphere was definitely influenced by several of these threads, so, the assertion of "unproductive", from my point of view, is completely unwarranted.

Really, who cares if product XY is too pricey?

Um, OBVIOUSLY, people who start these threads are trying to make that determination, so, clearly, at the very least, those people care.

It could be true, or it could be not. And that's basically what this thread is, a collection of opinions. Irrelevant to me, if i would be thinking about buying Omnisphere.

It is a collection of opinions and statements about the software, some of which are more true than others and some of which carry more weight than others in the view of many readers. I know that I don't value the input of all KVR members equally, some people know what they're talking about, many members do not. The point that so many seem to miss is that these threads get started because people want more information. Moreover, with products like omnisphere that have no demo, there will be more threads like this than there will be for other products. I think that most savvy users would prefer to answer many questions for themselves, but, that can be difficult to do with no demo.

I agree with you with respect to testimonials, they are largely irrelevant and I think that most people seeking information probably feel somewhat the same way. That said, they often become part of the impetus for asking questions because with so many people claiming that omnisphere is such an excellent synth, they want to make sure that their understanding of the product is correct. Consequently, they start threads like these seeking information. Why omni owners are so offended by this is beyond me. It's natural to want to understand an expensive product before purchase and it's natural to seek information on forums like this.

[trimph1]

Ummmm...excuse me?

Did anyone say they were offended?

Look. I understand the posing of the OP. And, having said that I implied that it had really no such 'value' in, and, of, itself. We PUT value on the thing.

I really do not see why there is such a big fuss over some instrument that costs $500 MSRP.
I paid out $335 for it here.

[neverenoughfunk]

I agree with you with respect to testimonials, they are largely irrelevant and I think that most people seeking information probably feel somewhat the same way. That said, they often become part of the impetus for asking questions because with so many people claiming that omnisphere is such an excellent synth, they want to make sure that their understanding of the product is correct. Consequently, they start threads like these seeking information. Why omni owners are so offended by this is beyond me. It's natural to want to understand an expensive product before purchase and it's natural to seek information on forums like this.

this post is great!!!

but i would like to add... the name Specstrasonic speaks for itself... when i first purchased Omni... i did not know the capabilities of the product... the name Specstrasonic was enough for me... i.e. their track record (stylus/stylus rmx, atmosphere/omnisphere, trilogy/trillian)...

to be honest... maybe the OP is not ready for Omni yet... maybe he/she should seek more/better understanding of synthesis first... then he/she may be able to come to his/her own conclusion...

another point about individuals input... in many cases an individual's input to based on his/her experiences... i just wondering how many of the individuals that posted in this thread could play a complex chord or have "chops"... because if you are only playing triads and one finger melodies... then Omni may not be for you...

just a thought!!!

[chk071]

Ghettosynth, that all implies that the OP knows his way around here, and knows whose opinion he can rely on, who knows his stuff and who does not. Would you agree that there's much more worthy info in checking the specs, and watching product demos (there are plenty of these)? I can only say that it's an extremely bad decision to rely on 3rd party opinions about a product (i know that from my own experience...). Especially with a plugin at this price point. And if the OP has a store nearby where he can check out Omnisphere, then i would highly recommend to do so.

[valerian_777]

OP forgot to create a poll.

[ghettosynth]

Ummmm...excuse me?

Did anyone say they were offended?

It's generally only the owners that seek to end these threads using various means. I hope that for any intelligent KVR readers, that I do not have to point these out explicitly, I certainly could, the post would fill a page by itself.

I really do not see why there is such a big fuss over some instrument that costs $500 MSRP.
I paid out $335 for it here.

As I already said, I think that for most regular KVR readers, $500 is a drop in the bucket compared to what they spend on music gear. That's not the point, and if one honestly thinks that is, then perhaps one should consider whether or not they really have taken the time to understand what people are asking about.

People are essentially asking why a virtual synth costs $500 when few other soft synths cost that much. It isn't about spending $500, it's about not wasting $500.

[neverenoughfunk]

after watching the videos of Omni if an individual cant understand the power of Omni... they are not ready for it... i.e. they will be wasting $500...

in my opinion... with experience you know exactly what you need... if i was the OP and undecided about Omni... i would wait... work on my synthesis knowledge and "chops"... getting better at those two things would be more beneficial than purchasing Omni... because Omni is only a tool... the craftsman does the "actual" work...

[ghettosynth]

in my opinion... with experience you know exactly what you need...

Yes, and for synths that provide a demo, it's fairly easy to determine whether or not a synth will fill that particular need. Without a demo, you have to trust that videos accurately reflect a synths capabilities, or, seek out an environment to demo the synth. I can tell you that the former is not true, and I'm not just talking about omnisphere. I'm not going to name the synths because there's no value to that, but, video demos often do not highlight weakness in a synth engine. The vendor controls the environment and will not present a synth in a weak light if he can at all avoid it.

[trimph1]

Which leaves us to show the weaknesses.

I know that this might be an issue with some but....boy are we picking at gnats now.

[neverenoughfunk]

in my opinion... with experience you know exactly what you need...

Yes, and for synths that provide a demo, it's fairly easy to determine whether or not a synth will fill that particular need. Without a demo, you have to trust that videos accurately reflect a synths capabilities, or, seek out an environment to demo the synth. I can tell you that the former is not true, and I'm not just talking about omnisphere. I'm not going to name the synths because there's no value to that, but, video demos often do not highlight weakness in a synth engine. The vendor controls the environment and will not present a synth in a weak light if he can at all avoid it.

when we talk about respecting someone's opinion... i respect yours... i understand everything you have written... and with valid points... lets say... there is 1001 items on the limitations list... but as a craftsman... you do not look for limitations... of course this is strictly my opinion... you take the tool and use its strong points... i know that begs the question... without a demo how can i tell what the strong points are... and for me... it becomes the representation of the company itself... for me... if specstrasonics came out with a product tomorrow where there was no description of the product... basically... buying that product blindly... just by their track record alone "i" would purchase it...

i will be the first to admit that my synthesis knowledge is not on your level (strictly going by your posts)... and a demo may be very important to you... but to a large percentage of Specstrasonic customers... they would purchase a Specstrasonic product blindly... just because of the quality of their work...

i remember paying $1800 for my MPC2000 (loaded)... Roland U220 was about $700... the list goes on and on... so for some... spending $500 on a synth is not such a big deal... not saying anyone is pirating their software... but you cant pirate hardware... and if someone from time to time get free software... then spending $500 for a synth may seem like a lot...

last point... appears the Specstrasonic have done well with there no demo policy... that just leads me to believe... they are doing something right...

much respect!!!

[ghettosynth]

Which leaves us to show the weaknesses.

I know that this might be an issue with some but....boy are we picking at gnats now.

Again, if you're happy with it, why do you care enough to keep complaining about other people talking about its strengths and weaknesses? One might think that such conversation "offends" you?

[BBFG#]

Thanks for the reminder I can upgrade from Atmosphere. Brought back the memory of how FUp'd the company can be. I'll venture into this after I have forgot that again.

[neverenoughfunk]

Thanks for the reminder I can upgrade from Atmosphere. Brought back the memory of how FUp'd the company can be. I'll venture into this after I have forgot that again.

explain?

it appears from your posts you expect a lot of software developers...

that begs the question... musically... what have you brought the world?

i ask because it seems that your bar is pretty high... and if you expect x,y,z from your software developers... i cant imagine what you expect for yourself musically...