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bluedad wrote:I still keep my first synth around although there is
no way to repair it, a Chroma Polaris.
very cool, Bluedad! the Polaris and my AX80 could be considered distant cousins as they both use the
CEM 3372 VCF/VCA chip! what is broken on it, BTW?

here is a reskined cetone033 vst i made inspired by my AX80 :D
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HW SYNTHS [KORG T2EX - AKAI AX80 - YAMAHA SY77 - ENSONIQ VFX]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - ROLAND JV880 - KURZ 1000PX]
SW [CHARLATAN - OBXD - OXE - ELEKTRO - MICROTERA - M1 - SURGE - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK WINXP / MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]

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fluffy_little_something wrote:
crimsonwarlock wrote:Ragnarök needs more votes ;)

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=425572
Ragnarçk needs a saw first ;)
Why?

It not having saws doesn't seem to stop all the guys who are actually doing something with it, to come up with a pretty diverse sonic palette, and seriously awesome sounds. I've heard things that I myself wouldn't expect to be possible with Ragnarök.

Besides, there are already several patches that seem to need a saw-wave to be possible, but clearly didn't :D

But of course you are in the camp that thinks every synth needs every option, so we will end up with a whole bunch of plugins who do basically the same :hihi:
CrimsonWarlock aka TechnoGremlin, Moved to Reason and Rack Extensions exclusively (from Reaper and VSTs) several years ago.

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bluedad wrote:
crimsonwarlock wrote: It doesn't have to work, it's a monument :D
I can fully understand that; I still keep my first synth around although there is
no way to repair it, a Chroma Polaris.
Wow, a Chroma is DEFINITELY a monument. Too bad it doesn't work anymore.
CrimsonWarlock aka TechnoGremlin, Moved to Reason and Rack Extensions exclusively (from Reaper and VSTs) several years ago.

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here is a reskined cetone033 vst i made inspired by my AX80 :D
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That´s a fabulous GUI for the cetone...so it´s obvious with a good GUI it´s inspirited
for someone to programming some sounds for it as if a synth with a GUI of a simple
datasheet.... you will also follow your eyes to a sweet beautiful woman as to a whimsy, right...
When I does programming my hardware synths, I can fiddle with knobs....on plugins you can
only fiddle with your mouse...so a inspiring GUI could do the same and awake your emotions...
Why?

It not having saws doesn't seem to stop all the guys who are actually doing something with it, to come up with a pretty diverse sonic palette, and seriously awesome sounds. I've heard things that I myself wouldn't expect to be possible with Ragnarök.

Besides, there are already several patches that seem to need a saw-wave to be possible, but clearly didn't :D

But of course you are in the camp that thinks every synth needs every option, so we will end up with a whole bunch of plugins who do basically the same :hihi:
I think, it doesn´t need a saw....Ragnarök is as good as it is...even something special and it sounds right -
even like the hardware..right? For me, there are very good soundpossibilities in it´s own way...
no further options please - that´s the same thing like with the OBXD from 2dat...or the PG8x from Martin L. - an emulation is an emulation....which it how it should be...
and I won´t think, that there will be more patchprogrammer, if Ragnarök were commercial....
I´ve made soundbanks for over hundred vst-synths, but I even won´t share all of them....but what i´ve said
at the beginning, if a synth has a good gui and a good sound - so everyone who likes, will make some patches - for himself or for the masses...

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crimsonwarlock wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:
crimsonwarlock wrote:Ragnarök needs more votes ;)

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=425572
Ragnarçk needs a saw first ;)
Why?

It not having saws doesn't seem to stop all the guys who are actually doing something with it, to come up with a pretty diverse sonic palette, and seriously awesome sounds. I've heard things that I myself wouldn't expect to be possible with Ragnarök.

Besides, there are already several patches that seem to need a saw-wave to be possible, but clearly didn't :D

But of course you are in the camp that thinks every synth needs every option, so we will end up with a whole bunch of plugins who do basically the same :hihi:
Well, saw seems to be the most commonly used waveform, so naturally it is unusual if a VA synth doesn't have one...
That is all I am saying, I didn't really expect you to add a saw :)

I like the equalizer a lot. More and more synths have equalizers today, but most are not as inviting. I like sliders on equalizers, most synths have knobs instead, though.

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Schiffbauer wrote:I think, it doesn´t need a saw....Ragnarök is as good as it is...even something special and it sounds right -
even like the hardware..right? For me, there are very good soundpossibilities in it´s own way...
no further options please - that´s the same thing like with the OBXD from 2dat...or the PG8x from Martin L. - an emulation is an emulation....which it how it should be...
My sentiments exactly :D

But (playing devil's advocate here), the base concept of Ragnarök with all stackable oscillators configuration does make it pretty inviting to see where we can go from here. The hardware was build in the eighties, but what functionality would it have if it where build much later and money wouldn't be a problem ;)

Needless to say that if we where to go there, we would make sure to stay very close to the original concept, and keep the heritage of the original hardware in check.
Schiffbauer wrote:and I won´t think, that there will be more patchprogrammer, if Ragnarök were commercial....
I´ve made soundbanks for over hundred vst-synths, but I even won´t share all of them....but what i´ve said
at the beginning, if a synth has a good gui and a good sound - so everyone who likes, will make some patches - for himself or for the masses...
The designation 'performance synthesizer' is there because I wanted it to be inviting to play with and program. The knob-configuration on the hardware was specifically aimed at live tweaking of the knobs during a performance. I think that has a lot to do with the obvious fact that many people seem to enjoy Ragnarök for making their own sounds. I also agree that Ragnarök currently has a very good balance between being easy to program and being quite powerful sound-wise at the same time.
CrimsonWarlock aka TechnoGremlin, Moved to Reason and Rack Extensions exclusively (from Reaper and VSTs) several years ago.

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fluffy_little_something wrote:Well, saw seems to be the most commonly used waveform, so naturally it is unusual if a VA synth doesn't have one...
That is all I am saying, I didn't really expect you to add a saw :)
Fair enough :D
fluffy_little_something wrote:I like the equalizer a lot. More and more synths have equalizers today, but most are not as inviting. I like sliders on equalizers, most synths have knobs instead, though.
Yep, the equalizer was a nice shaping tool on the hardware as well. On the hardware I used a fairly standard EQ DIY-kit and didn't do anything to it's standard frequencies. On the software however Björn gave me the option to test and tweak the frequencies, so the software does certainly has a better EQ now than the hardware had.
CrimsonWarlock aka TechnoGremlin, Moved to Reason and Rack Extensions exclusively (from Reaper and VSTs) several years ago.

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Ragnarok might not need a saw, but it would sure as hell be awesome if it had PWM :)

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EvilDragon wrote:Ragnarok might not need a saw, but it would sure as hell be awesome if it had PWM :)
Now there is something I think it doesn't need at all; having three detuned oscillators for EVERY waveform and EVERY octave is much more powerful. The fact that it does pretty big pad/string sounds without even using a chorus is a testament to that. If you put a chorus (like the free one from TAL) behind it, it gives even a Jupiter-8 a serious run for it's money ;)

Disclaimer: I'm not saying it actually sounds like a J8, just that it can do huge phat pads, that a J8 is also known for 8)
CrimsonWarlock aka TechnoGremlin, Moved to Reason and Rack Extensions exclusively (from Reaper and VSTs) several years ago.

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Well, we could spend all year telling CW what is missing and what it needs, but its his design/idea, so its made for purpose. You have to respect that amd either take it or leave it.

I spent some time with it last night. Its clearly a very simple synth, and i found it very hard to warrant a place in mt vst folder. Too simple for me. I have tons of stuff, and all of the very complex stuff can still be as simple as i want it too.

So, if you want more features, use a diff synth.

Congrats on the release, and good luck with future projects 8)

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Kriminal wrote:Well, we could spend all year telling CW what is missing and what it needs, but its his design/idea, so its made for purpose. You have to respect that amd either take it or leave it.

I spent some time with it last night. Its clearly a very simple synth, and i found it very hard to warrant a place in mt vst folder. Too simple for me. I have tons of stuff, and all of the very complex stuff can still be as simple as i want it too.

So, if you want more features, use a diff synth.

Congrats on the release, and good luck with future projects 8)
Thanks for stating that, and for giving a fair assessment from your perspective :tu:
CrimsonWarlock aka TechnoGremlin, Moved to Reason and Rack Extensions exclusively (from Reaper and VSTs) several years ago.

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Version 1.1.0 (26-Nov-2014)
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* Minor UI changes
* Added support for individual skins (download now also includes original graphics)
* File functions now work in Reaper etc. too
* Fixed issue with hanging notes and specific presets
* Updated user manual
* Added 4 new presets

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This update supports replacing the skin graphics without the need to hack the DLL. Info and howto are in the (updated) manual ;)

Enjoy :D
CrimsonWarlock aka TechnoGremlin, Moved to Reason and Rack Extensions exclusively (from Reaper and VSTs) several years ago.

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layzer wrote:
bluedad wrote:I still keep my first synth around although there is
no way to repair it, a Chroma Polaris.
very cool, Bluedad! the Polaris and my AX80 could be considered distant cousins as they both use the
CEM 3372 VCF/VCA chip! what is broken on it, BTW?
The typical membrane problem. If I had known it was that fragile I never would have gigged with it,
or left it in the garage over the winter. :scared:

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bluedad wrote:
layzer wrote:
bluedad wrote:I still keep my first synth around although there is
no way to repair it, a Chroma Polaris.
very cool, Bluedad! the Polaris and my AX80 could be considered distant cousins as they both use the
CEM 3372 VCF/VCA chip! what is broken on it, BTW?
The typical membrane problem. If I had known it was that fragile I never would have gigged with it,
or left it in the garage over the winter. :scared:
ahhh yes. those damn membrane buttons! the AX80 is also prone to problems with its membrane buttons, which is why i tap them ever so lightly :scared:
HW SYNTHS [KORG T2EX - AKAI AX80 - YAMAHA SY77 - ENSONIQ VFX]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - ROLAND JV880 - KURZ 1000PX]
SW [CHARLATAN - OBXD - OXE - ELEKTRO - MICROTERA - M1 - SURGE - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK WINXP / MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]

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layzer wrote: ahhh yes. those damn membrane buttons! the AX80 is also prone to problems with its membrane buttons, which is why i tap them ever so lightly :scared:
lol (to keep from crying) I tell myself that my Juno 106 is an ok alternative, but even it has that #^%@ chip problem!
sorry to hijack your thread crimson, best of luck on your release!

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