KVR Audio

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:27 am

They need to make better audio/video demos. All of the Matrix 12 videos feature really cheezy and flat synth sounds. The sound doesn't shine at all, even though there are some exciting features in the product.

Contrast with Oddity 2, which just blows me away. The presets are heavenly, and I don't even like presets. So many textures and feelings evoked. Some synths are more than the sum of their components, others not so much.

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:30 am

Sendy wrote:They need to make better audio/video demos. All of the Matrix 12 videos feature really cheezy and flat synth sounds. The sound doesn't shine at all, even though there are some exciting features in the product.

Do you base your buying decision on the audio/video demos, if there's also a plugin demo?

Robmobius · Post by **Robmobius** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:35 am

It's a really good deal 169e for Version 4 you get a lot for your money. Fair play to Arturia.

Trouble is, I already have a few of their products. Spark 2 and Oberheim Sem, But I don't like ANY of their old synths. The two new synths are interesting and the Vox is nice (but I'd never use it).

So, nothing to tempt me. But if you like their stuff it's an excellent deal...

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:38 am

T-CM11 wrote:
Sendy wrote:They need to make better audio/video demos. All of the Matrix 12 videos feature really cheezy and flat synth sounds. The sound doesn't shine at all, even though there are some exciting features in the product.
Do you base your buying decision on the audio/video demos, if there's also a plugin demo?

I can't demo every synth that comes out. If the people who made it can't make it sound good... what incentive is there? I have literally dozens of synths already. I will probably look at the demo at some point, though, out of curiosity.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:43 am

Sendy wrote:I can't demo every synth that comes out. If the people who made it can't make it sound good... what incentive is there?

+1 Some synths require a lot of work to be demoed, there isn't just a dll to download that can quickly be fired up with SAVI host.

The 25 minute product video Arturia has put up on youtube provides insight also.

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:48 am

Sendy wrote: I can't demo every synth that comes out. If the people who made it can't make it sound good... what incentive is there? I have literally dozens of synths already. I will probably look at the demo at some point, though, out of curiosity.

I've only seen one Youtube clip of the M12, and I consider that one a 'commercial', rather than a demo.
Many 'demos' that synth companies have made have often been in some popular (at that time) genre. I would've never bought any synth if that's all I knew.

Robmobius · Post by **Robmobius** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:12 pm

Sendy wrote: I can't demo every synth that comes out. If the people who made it can't make it sound good... what incentive is there? I have literally dozens of synths already. I will probably look at the demo at some point, though, out of curiosity.

This is it... If the pro bods who make the synth can't actually make it sound good, then the chances are I won't be able to either.

Exception to the rule - I found this for Acoustica's Aqua plugins. Their demos were so so. It was only a mate of mine who said Trinity II was the dogs. So I bought it on his advice alone, because he knows his stuff. And Trinity is a class EQ.

First impressions last though, so it's really down to the company to pull you in initially. So then you try the demo. It's never a good sign to see a mediocre youtube demo.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:27 pm

Numanoid wrote:
Sendy wrote:I can't demo every synth that comes out. If the people who made it can't make it sound good... what incentive is there?
+1 Some synths require a lot of work to be demoed, there isn't just a dll to download that can quickly be fired up with SAVI host.

The 25 minute product video Arturia has put up on youtube provides insight also.

With Arturias new Software Center actually installing full versions, Updates, Demos and activating is quite simple, at least as long as you have a MyArturia ccount. No idea how it works without.
Arturia software Center download is available here (you would need an account for it to run properly):
http://www.arturia.com/support/updates&manuals

AFAIK the new demos even run without activation. The Matrix-12V demo download is also available here:
http://www.arturia.com/myarturia?view=demo&id=103

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:38 pm

Ingonator wrote: AFAIK the new demos even run without activation. The Matrix-12V demo download is also available here:
http://www.arturia.com/myarturia?view=demo&id=103

Get Matrix 12 V demo version for free
Please fill in the following fields to obtain an activation code. This activation code will be emailed to you. It will allow you to run the demo version with your eLicenser control center.

Do they send those activation codes manually? Because I still haven't received one.

stardustmedia · Post by **stardustmedia** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:58 pm

Aren't they the codes in your arturia account?

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:04 pm

deft_bonz wrote:Aren't they the codes in your arturia account?

Demo codes in my Arturia account?

stardustmedia · Post by **stardustmedia** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:06 pm

T-CM11 wrote:
deft_bonz wrote:Aren't they the codes in your arturia account?
Demo codes in my Arturia account?

Sorry, I was thinking of the bought version

I think they have some server performance issues at the moment. I had issues when buying then downloading the installer. Took me a couple of retries

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:09 pm

deft_bonz wrote: I think they have some server performance issues at the moment. I had issues when buying then downloading the installer. Took me a couple of retries

I had no problem downloading the demo... but they have issues sending me a code? ...

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:16 pm

Anyway, I just installed the demo, and there is no mention of an 'activation code'. Don't know why that page mentions it.

lnikj · Post by **lnikj** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:18 pm

T-CM11 wrote:Anyway, I just installed the demo, and there is no mention of an 'activation code'. Don't know why that page mentions it.

They've abandoned the e-licenser. But, not bothered to update all the relevant pages on their website.

Arturia's new plugins : Solina V and Matrix 12V