i have all valhalla plugins and i often get Lexicon reerbs recommended for Dark ambient like this one (i love the reverb!):
Lexicon vs. Valhalla Reverbs
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- KVRAF
- 9650 posts since 5 Aug, 2009
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- KVRAF
- 1888 posts since 13 Aug, 2011 from Berlin
You need to learn how to use them. No new tool will be a shortcut to this. Not even with the name Lexicon on it. The Valhalla reverbs are very capable for these sounds.
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- KVRian
- 1148 posts since 29 Jun, 2012
I love a cavern full of reverb.
My most used reverbs are the Valhalla (VVV and Shimmer) and Lexicon PCMs. I also use Eventide's Blackhole and 2C Audio's Aether and B2 quite a bit. Combining them with long decaying and mutating delays (Echoboy, Crystallizer, NF Echoes) makes me very happy.
Not a bad verb in the bunch, in my opinion.
My most used reverbs are the Valhalla (VVV and Shimmer) and Lexicon PCMs. I also use Eventide's Blackhole and 2C Audio's Aether and B2 quite a bit. Combining them with long decaying and mutating delays (Echoboy, Crystallizer, NF Echoes) makes me very happy.
Not a bad verb in the bunch, in my opinion.
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- KVRian
- 605 posts since 31 Aug, 2012
Valhalla its plenty enough i heard some shootouts with real eventide and i prefered the valhalla all the way.
Not big fan of the Lexicon native bundle!
Not big fan of the Lexicon native bundle!
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 9650 posts since 5 Aug, 2009
thanks a lot! 
guess imma learn how to use Valhalla more haha
guess imma learn how to use Valhalla more haha
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- KVRAF
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
VVV emulates several Lexicon models, no?
Just got it, playing around some more and it's wonderful, should have got it sooner!
From uber-smooth reverbs to long diffused echos to tight color/ambiances and thick chorus effects.
Here's a recent video where they compare several Lexicon emulations and VVV...
Video is in german but you can skip through to simply listen...
Just got it, playing around some more and it's wonderful, should have got it sooner!
From uber-smooth reverbs to long diffused echos to tight color/ambiances and thick chorus effects.
Here's a recent video where they compare several Lexicon emulations and VVV...
Video is in german but you can skip through to simply listen...
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 9650 posts since 5 Aug, 2009
3ee wrote:VVV emulates several Lexicon models, no?
Just got it, playing around some more and it's wonderful, should have got it sooner!
From uber-smooth reverbs to long diffused echos to tight color/ambiances and thick chorus effects.
Here's a recent video where they compare several Lexicon emulations and VVV...
Video is in german but you can skip through to simply listen...
thanks a lot, im german ;D, can you make some examples (which settings to get the diffused echoes to tight color/ambiences?= sounds interesting)!
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- KVRAF
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
Sure! 
here's a diffused echo-verb: ...The Hall algos with large size values makes for echoes since they go far beyond other "smaller" algos. Diffusion parameters more to minimum to "morph" from reverb to delay-echo
Try on stabby/percussive stuff, play with shape: size and attack parameters to fine-tune time and character of the echoes as well as predelay and decay.
<ValhallaVintageVerb pluginVersion="1.0.1" presetName="Diff Echoverb" Mix="0.300000012" PreDelay="0.338999987" Decay="0.545000017" Size="1" Attack="0.810000002" BassMult="0.606999993" BassXover="0.282582551" HighShelf="0.536000013" HighFreq="0.5" EarlyDiffusion="0.252000004" LateDiffusion="0.175999999" ModRate="0.483999997" ModDepth="0.203999996" HighCut="0.814999998" LowCut="0.100000001" ColorMode="0.666666687" ReverbMode="0.0416666679"/>
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Smooth Dark Room:
<ValhallaVintageVerb pluginVersion="1.0.1" presetName="Smooth Dark Room" Mix="0.340000004" PreDelay="0.211999997" Decay="0.328000009" Size="1" Attack="0.296999991" BassMult="0.207000002" BassXover="0.335999995" HighShelf="0.5" HighFreq="0.275000006" EarlyDiffusion="1" LateDiffusion="0.879999995" ModRate="0.156000003" ModDepth="0.263999999" HighCut="0.419999987" LowCut="0.0949999988" ColorMode="0.333333343" ReverbMode="0.125"/>
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Here's a tight ambiance... change the color using the SHAPE parameters...
<ValhallaVintageVerb pluginVersion="1.0.1" presetName="Tight Amb" Mix="0.400999993" PreDelay="0" Decay="0.0920000002" Size="0.296999991" Attack="1" BassMult="0" BassXover="0.455000013" HighShelf="0.159999996" HighFreq="0.224000007" EarlyDiffusion="1" LateDiffusion="0.796000004" ModRate="0.555999994" ModDepth="0.148000002" HighCut="0.658999979" LowCut="0.0469999984" ColorMode="0.666666687" ReverbMode="0.375"/>
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For a good chorus try the Halls and Sanctuary especially...
On this preset try messing with the Shape: size and attack will cross-fade between two different chorus flavors since it's the blend between early VS late reflections on the Sanctuary algo..
<ValhallaVintageVerb pluginVersion="1.0.1" presetName="Chorus Gentle Shimmer" Mix="0.5" PreDelay="0" Decay="0" Size="0.25" Attack="0.5" BassMult="0.324000001" BassXover="0.282582551" HighShelf="1" HighFreq="0.5" EarlyDiffusion="0.703999996" LateDiffusion="0.819999993" ModRate="0.796000004" ModDepth="0.363999993" HighCut="1" LowCut="0.0529999994" ColorMode="0.666666687" ReverbMode="0.375"/>
here's a diffused echo-verb: ...The Hall algos with large size values makes for echoes since they go far beyond other "smaller" algos. Diffusion parameters more to minimum to "morph" from reverb to delay-echo
Try on stabby/percussive stuff, play with shape: size and attack parameters to fine-tune time and character of the echoes as well as predelay and decay.
<ValhallaVintageVerb pluginVersion="1.0.1" presetName="Diff Echoverb" Mix="0.300000012" PreDelay="0.338999987" Decay="0.545000017" Size="1" Attack="0.810000002" BassMult="0.606999993" BassXover="0.282582551" HighShelf="0.536000013" HighFreq="0.5" EarlyDiffusion="0.252000004" LateDiffusion="0.175999999" ModRate="0.483999997" ModDepth="0.203999996" HighCut="0.814999998" LowCut="0.100000001" ColorMode="0.666666687" ReverbMode="0.0416666679"/>
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Smooth Dark Room:
<ValhallaVintageVerb pluginVersion="1.0.1" presetName="Smooth Dark Room" Mix="0.340000004" PreDelay="0.211999997" Decay="0.328000009" Size="1" Attack="0.296999991" BassMult="0.207000002" BassXover="0.335999995" HighShelf="0.5" HighFreq="0.275000006" EarlyDiffusion="1" LateDiffusion="0.879999995" ModRate="0.156000003" ModDepth="0.263999999" HighCut="0.419999987" LowCut="0.0949999988" ColorMode="0.333333343" ReverbMode="0.125"/>
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Here's a tight ambiance... change the color using the SHAPE parameters...
<ValhallaVintageVerb pluginVersion="1.0.1" presetName="Tight Amb" Mix="0.400999993" PreDelay="0" Decay="0.0920000002" Size="0.296999991" Attack="1" BassMult="0" BassXover="0.455000013" HighShelf="0.159999996" HighFreq="0.224000007" EarlyDiffusion="1" LateDiffusion="0.796000004" ModRate="0.555999994" ModDepth="0.148000002" HighCut="0.658999979" LowCut="0.0469999984" ColorMode="0.666666687" ReverbMode="0.375"/>
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For a good chorus try the Halls and Sanctuary especially...
On this preset try messing with the Shape: size and attack will cross-fade between two different chorus flavors since it's the blend between early VS late reflections on the Sanctuary algo..
<ValhallaVintageVerb pluginVersion="1.0.1" presetName="Chorus Gentle Shimmer" Mix="0.5" PreDelay="0" Decay="0" Size="0.25" Attack="0.5" BassMult="0.324000001" BassXover="0.282582551" HighShelf="1" HighFreq="0.5" EarlyDiffusion="0.703999996" LateDiffusion="0.819999993" ModRate="0.796000004" ModDepth="0.363999993" HighCut="1" LowCut="0.0529999994" ColorMode="0.666666687" ReverbMode="0.375"/>
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- KVRian
- 963 posts since 29 Sep, 2006
Nothing wrong with Lexicon reverb, after all they invented it (digital reverb).
I have both hardware and software lexicons, still a staple in many world class studios.
I have both hardware and software lexicons, still a staple in many world class studios.
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- KVRian
- 945 posts since 13 Oct, 2006
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- KVRAF
- 12491 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
No one's saying there's anything wrong with them. I think the question more is, "can I make these sounds with Valhalla reverbs? If so, I need more reverb experience but at least I already own what I need, if not, I guess I need to buy Lexicon reverbs."Sparky77 wrote:Nothing wrong with Lexicon reverb, after all they invented it (digital reverb).
I have both hardware and software lexicons, still a staple in many world class studios.
The answer to that question is a resounding, "Yes, Valhalla VintageVerb is more than capable of producing similar sounds, keep at it."