U-HE Hive

[Urs]

i rethought the suggesting tehlord made about having Noise in the Sub OSCs,

Thanks, I'll come up with something.

I was thinking, maybe, as Filter 2 has a 5th input, maybe the first filter could get a noise input. The noise could inherit the pan/width settings form the first oscillator.

I'll ponder about that a little more.

[Urs]

That said, do we need one noise source or two? Is it necessary to have noise on both lanes?

[Caine123]

No use for passion if you're hospitalized with burn out

No worries. I'd be depressed if we can't post a public version.

dont push yourself too hard, what shall we do with great plugins and no Urs?

Well, but the thing is pretty much there. Why stop so close before the finish line?

Just need to fix a crash bug today, sort out some oddities with the detune laws, think about tuning the Steiner-Parker filter and figure out what to have my employees do in the remaining days.

- Urs

P.S.: I'll be on the Weihnachtsmarkt tonight and probably get smashed with Glühwein

on which Weihnachtsmarkt maybe we see us each other

[Urs]

on which Weihnachtsmarkt maybe we see us each other

I think we'll be at Schloss Charlotte. But that's time off - I won't discuss Hive there

[Caine123]

on which Weihnachtsmarkt maybe we see us each other

I think we'll be at Schloss Charlotte. But that's time off - I won't discuss Hive there

i can recommend this Weihnachtsmarkt a lot! much better than Gendarmenmarkt, and no, i dont like to talk about "job" in free time ! (but when ur drunk u never know what infos might slip hahahaha!)

looking forward!

[tehlord]

That said, do we need one noise source or two? Is it necessary to have noise on both lanes?

One

Ideally routable to either filter, width settings and if you're feeling really fruity give it it's own HP/LP knob.

Perhaps the other option would be to replace one of the sub oscillators with a noise oscillator. Do you really need two subs?

[tedlogan]

Hive (Dirty Engine)

http://draigathar.org/sounds/Hive15.mp3

That sounds great! Love the timbre.

Had to head off the beaten path a bit here

http://draigathar.org/sounds/Hive16.mp3

And again. Lovely, really really lovely. Superb.

Hive is looking and sounding fantastic u-he! This is gonna be a keeper for when Bazille is simply overkill CPU-wise for similar jobs.

[Urs]

That said, do we need one noise source or two? Is it necessary to have noise on both lanes?

One

Ideally routable to either filter, width settings and if you're feeling really fruity give it it's own HP/LP knob.

Makes sense...

Perhaps the other option would be to replace one of the sub oscillators with a noise oscillator. Do you really need two subs?

Don't underestimate the subs! They can inherit all settings from the main oscillator, so they can actually do 16 unison saws at a different tuning than the main oscs.

I think the best way to go about is to equip the subs with noise waveforms as well and dare a little inconsistency, i.e. let them inherit the pan/width setting of the main osc. Then add some sort of tilting filter for "noise colour" that can be addressed via the mod matrix, which goes from brown - red - pink - white - blue noise.

[supernova]

Do you really need two subs?

I believe that at at least an even number of oscillators should have their dedicated suboscillator. you can do so much with them if you don't "mistreat" them as an individual oscillator (if even possible).

I also believe that noise-oscillators in EDM sounddesign (at least outside of synthpop) make more sense when they can be (lowpass-)filtered and modulate the oscillator- and filter-frequency, not as a direct sound source.

If noise, then it must be stereo IMHO. as the subs don't have their dedicated width-parameter which makes sense, they can inherit it from their parent oscillator. Alternatively a global width-parameter could make sense, but that'd theoretically limit sounddesign-possibilities. (But does it make sense to have different stuff going in the middle and the sides in a production scenario? Wouldn't you just layer two synths for these purposes?)

I personally don't grieve a potential lack of noise in any synthesizer. The non-harmonic waveforms that Urs hinted at are much more interesting to me.

Can the Hive be operated in true unison mode, or does that generally go under 'voice-stacking' of which the lack has already been discussed ITT?

[itoa]

Urs I love your DSP, but you should definitely hire an UX designer.

The least important informations take the most important space.

I mean the hexagonal "display on display".
Moreover its brighter so attracts the eye even more and leaves everything, what is important, in the background.

This could be cool if it was a sci-fi Amiga game..

[Frantz]

An exclusive photo of Urs making final adjustments to the Hive synth engine.



Actually it's the James Webb Space Telescope.

[tedlogan]

[Ameyah Audio]

lol at teh photo!

Do you really need two subs?

I believe that at at least an even number of oscillators should have their dedicated suboscillator. you can do so much with them if you don't "mistreat" them as an individual oscillator (if even possible).

I also believe that noise-oscillators in EDM sounddesign (at least outside of synthpop) make more sense when they can be (lowpass-)filtered and modulate the oscillator- and filter-frequency, not as a direct sound source.

If noise, then it must be stereo IMHO. as the subs don't have their dedicated width-parameter which makes sense, they can inherit it from their parent oscillator. Alternatively a global width-parameter could make sense, but that'd theoretically limit sounddesign-possibilities. (But does it make sense to have different stuff going in the middle and the sides in a production scenario? Wouldn't you just layer two synths for these purposes?)

I personally don't grieve a potential lack of noise in any synthesizer. The non-harmonic waveforms that Urs hinted at are much more interesting to me.

Can the Hive be operated in true unison mode, or does that generally go under 'voice-stacking' of which the lack has already been discussed ITT?

Noise is essential for EDM, it is used everywhere to get the sounds filled.
i think one Noise gen in the sub is enough, no need for 2 ones. the noise would also need to get dedicated LP/HP option, to perfect integrate them into the sound you want to achieve. Stereo is also important for the Noise gen, in pads and leads you will need to have them to widden up the sound and fill it.
well this needs some more thoughts, thanks for considering this!

[Urs]

Can the Hive be operated in true unison mode, or does that generally go under 'voice-stacking' of which the lack has already been discussed ITT?

No true unison mode. Yet.

There is a rather intriguing concept though to get unison back. I can't talk about it yet and it won't be in the initial alpha/beta when it goes public.

[Urs]

Urs I love your DSP, but you should definitely hire an UX designer.

The least important informations take the most important space.

I mean the hexagonal "display on display".
Moreover its brighter so attracts the eye even more and leaves everything, what is important, in the background.

This could be cool if it was a sci-fi Amiga game..

Wait for it...