DUNE 2 is out now!!

[Greg Houston]

Finally got a tune completed with Dune 2.
Kudos to Richard on the truly brilliant synth!

Without a doubt, one of 2014 absolute BEST synths.

Forgive the ruff mix.
Dune 2 plus one Cello:

https://soundcloud.com/vintage-synth-pa ... 2-from-vsp

Really pretty, Zak!

[dentnile]

It is not easy to make punchy sounds on Dune 2 because of the very non-linear envelopes. Especially when osc reset is turned off, sounds tend to start either with an unpleasant click (which unlike with other synths is not even consistent, nor does it sound like a click, more like a drop, particularly when using pulse wave) or in a fuzzy way, there doesn't seem to be an attack time where neither applies.

What you describe sounds more like you are having problems with phase rather than the behaviour of the envelopes.

You may get unwanted clicks if reset is off and attack is set to zero, just turn attack up a bit, it is usually punchy enough at default setting which is 7%.

If it is not punchy enough, try setting the initial phase of the oscillator waveform to something that gives a better punch, try this:

1. Init sound
2. A: 7% D: 42% S: 0% R: 0%
3. In mod matrix set source: Const, AMT: 0, Destination: Osc 1 Init Phase
4. Play a middle/low note repeatedly. It sounds quite soft. Same as if you enable the OSC Reset.
5. Play the note as you increase the AMT value in the mod matrix.
6. When you get to AMT 50... snappy!

About the actual envelopes, I find them just perfect for most of the sounds I'm making, including plucks. If I need something else I use an MSEG. There is nothing DUNE 2 cannot do in regards to envelopes or being snappy AFAIK.

[yemski]

- Support for custom skins

QUESTION: how does it work? Where is the "skins" folder?

Windows:
User/Documents/Synapse Audio/Dune 2/Skins

Mac OS X:
Music/Synapse Audio/Dune 2/Skins

QUESTION: any list of the new patches?

We compiled a list here (sorted into categories):
http://www.synapse-audio.com/public/DUN ... in-2.2.txt

Richard

Good to see that you can have free running Lfos and Msegs now.
I haven't had a chance to install it and check it out,but are the \Arps free running also? With a lot of the Arp sounds I've programmed I've used my own midi files so it would be good to be able to program in variations to a basic pattern (say 8bars for instance) without it resetting every time I changed a chord

Also,do you have any idea when the wavetable editor for Dune 2 will be ready? I've used Audioterm with varying results, most of which I was not entirely happy with, (although that may be down to not being very familiar with the program). All that being said,a wavetable editor specifically designed for Dune is always going to be better than a third party app that has compatibility added on,like Audioterm does. Also, it would give Dune more of an identity as a specifically wavetable synth. An identity that has been slightly overshadowed by Codex and Serum who have wavetable editing built in. This is a shame,because in many ways Dune is the superior synth, in terms of the mod matrix, layering capabilities, Arp (Serum doesn't even have one a big oversight in my view), Unison and Cpu hit. Although I own and am really into Codex and Serum, Dune is the synth I mostly rely on out of all three. With the wavetable editor in place there's not much I couldn't do with it.

[DJ Warmonger]

But I will try those MSEG's tomorrow, maybe they will do the trick

I tried that in the evening and it did work. Still, not the most convenient way - need to max out amp settings and modulate "amount" knob. Also need to figure out "sustain" duration from top of my head and have it fixed.

EDIT: However, when it comes to filter envelope, nothing is right and I can't come even close to Sylenth, after studying manuals for both :/

[Richard_Synapse]

Good to see that you can have free running Lfos and Msegs now.
I haven't had a chance to install it and check it out,but are the \Arps free running also? With a lot of the Arp sounds I've programmed I've used my own midi files so it would be good to be able to program in variations to a basic pattern (say 8bars for instance) without it resetting every time I changed a chord

Yes should work. When Host sync is enabled the Arp is not reset, but transports to the current position within the arp sequence. So basically just like MSEG/LFOs behave in that mode.

Also,do you have any idea when the wavetable editor for Dune 2 will be ready? I've used Audioterm with varying results, most of which I was not entirely happy with, (although that may be down to not being very familiar with the program). All that being said,a wavetable editor specifically designed for Dune is always going to be better than a third party app that has compatibility added on,like Audioterm does.

For sure Can't say when, yet.

Richard

[aMUSEd]

Will it be cross platform? - the biggest problem with Audioterm is it's PC only.

[fluffy_little_something]

It is not easy to make punchy sounds on Dune 2 because of the very non-linear envelopes. Especially when osc reset is turned off, sounds tend to start either with an unpleasant click (which unlike with other synths is not even consistent, nor does it sound like a click, more like a drop, particularly when using pulse wave) or in a fuzzy way, there doesn't seem to be an attack time where neither applies.

What you describe sounds more like you are having problems with phase rather than the behaviour of the envelopes.

You may get unwanted clicks if reset is off and attack is set to zero, just turn attack up a bit, it is usually punchy enough at default setting which is 7%.

If it is not punchy enough, try setting the initial phase of the oscillator waveform to something that gives a better punch, try this:

1. Init sound
2. A: 7% D: 42% S: 0% R: 0%
3. In mod matrix set source: Const, AMT: 0, Destination: Osc 1 Init Phase
4. Play a middle/low note repeatedly. It sounds quite soft. Same as if you enable the OSC Reset.
5. Play the note as you increase the AMT value in the mod matrix.
6. When you get to AMT 50... snappy!

About the actual envelopes, I find them just perfect for most of the sounds I'm making, including plucks. If I need something else I use an MSEG. There is nothing DUNE 2 cannot do in regards to envelopes or being snappy AFAIK.

I played around a bit with that mod destination, it does improve things. Regardless of this topic, I guess it would make sense to have an on/off switch for every mod matrix modulation so that one can compare with and without modulation, without deleting the current settings. Might be enough to make the number at the beginning of each mod line clickable.

[PatchAdamz]

Finally got a tune completed with Dune 2.
Kudos to Richard on the truly brilliant synth!

Without a doubt, one of 2014 absolute BEST synths.

Forgive the ruff mix.
Dune 2 plus one Cello:

https://soundcloud.com/vintage-synth-pa ... 2-from-vsp

Really pretty, Zak!

Thanks Greg, much appreciated!

[DJ Warmonger]

I have an idea:

1. Init sound
2. A: 7% D: 42% S: 0% R: 0%
3. In mod matrix set source: Const, AMT: 0, Destination: Osc 1 Init Phase
4. Play a middle/low note repeatedly. It sounds quite soft. Same as if you enable the OSC Reset.
5. Play the note as you increase the AMT value in the mod matrix.
6. When you get to AMT 50... snappy!

From manual:

Setting the initial
oscillator phase can be useful to obtain better control
of the transient of a sound, for instance.

This is because oscillators seem to start from max amlitude instead of minimum, as in normal synths. Thus they begin with click.

[fluffy_little_something]

Setting various controls, one of which even in the matrix, just to set the attack is a bit clumsy for my taste...

[Richard_Synapse]

You can get pretty much any shape by using MSEGs- that's what makes them great ihmo One attack knob/shape will never fit every purpose, so allowing to customize the shape is the only way. Some synths allow you to toggle between linear/exp shapes, but this is still not nearly as flexible as the ability to draw them, which also permits 2-stage or 3-stage attacks, etc.

Richard

[Richard_Synapse]

Will it be cross platform? - the biggest problem with Audioterm is it's PC only.

Most likely we'd integrate it, and thus it would be crossplatform. We made a simple PC editor for internal use to create the factory wavetables, but there's not much point in extending or porting it. At the end of the day you want to use wavetables in the synth and see how it sounds with filters, envelopes and unison applied...something an external editor will never be able to do.

Richard

[fluffy_little_something]

I think the first dot of the light indicators around the knobs should light up as soon as the value is not absolutely 0 or neutral.

[Kriminal]

I think the first dot of the light indicators around the knobs should light up as soon as the value is not absolutely 0 or neutral.

That would need a new knob. There are 63 animations, but not 62 LED'S (63rd one is zero)

That many lights would look crap.

[fluffy_little_something]

How about making all led dots light up in blue or green when absolute zero or neutral?