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ATS · Post by **ATS** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:18 am

man I gotta say this is so unreal

Touch The Universe · Post by **Touch The Universe** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:19 am

Yeah, they seemed like they really loved what they were doing and were nice friendly folks. I still can't believe this to be true!!! What's going on camel audio?

Bobbotov · Post by **Bobbotov** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:21 am

ATS wrote:
I actually feel sorry for those who did not buy it and will miss out on this great synth if things stay like this.

That's why I do not understand not providing a heads up. If they said after such and such a date sales would cease they could get all the fence sitters out there to buy product. Do they not need the money in any event???

It almost sounds like the actions of a company that got a legal "cease and desist" threat. If they had been bought out usually there is a joint press release to inform existing and potential users of product/support continuity and who the new entity will be to continue sales/support. And if it was a tax issue why not say so?

But just to go dark without an explanation is very strange. I have to think the user base is fairly substantial after almost 15 years and do not deserve to have the floor pulled out from underneath them. Their Facebook page is still up so why wouldn't they echo the closure info there as well. It all seems so rash and ad hoc.

And Alchemy 2 was literally on the verge of release. I know someone who knew how close they were and were developing sound sets for it. Does all that development go down the drain? Pity if it does. Alchemy and Camel Space are the two products I own and they are damn good.

JonSolo · Post by **JonSolo** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:23 am

Keyfiles- now embedded in Presets/Samples files. The main plugin does not require keyfile. Whew.

Still bad news...

FarleyCZ · Post by **FarleyCZ** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:24 am

Damn, this is terrible news. Nothing matched Alchemy in some areas even today. Really sad news.

Touch The Universe · Post by **Touch The Universe** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:26 am

Maybe someone can buy camel audio business to keep it alive?

Winstontaneous · Post by **Winstontaneous** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:26 am

Dang, I wanted to pick up CamelSpace sometime.

I bought Alchemy on sale years ago, but I've only really figured it out in the last 2-3 months. I highly recommend the Galbanum Architecture waveforms for (25,000) more VA OSC & LFO options.

parma · Post by **parma** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:27 am

ATS wrote:
Cuauhtli wrote:Sales of VAZ Synths products have been suspended in order to comply with the change in UK/EU cross-border VAT regulations effective 1st January 2015.

Same thing perhaps?

anyone know what this is exactly?

madness:

http://www.theguardian.com/small-busine ... ffect-smes

Camel Audio seems like the exact type of company that would be affected most by this...

TonyVegas · Post by **TonyVegas** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:27 am

ATS wrote:
Cuauhtli wrote:Sales of VAZ Synths products have been suspended in order to comply with the change in UK/EU cross-border VAT regulations effective 1st January 2015.

Same thing perhaps?

anyone know what this is exactly?

Sure, the governments of Europe make everything better & more valuable. In order to do that, they invented the VAT program. Now everything is just better.

werp · Post by **werp** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:30 am

parma wrote:
ATS wrote:
Cuauhtli wrote:Sales of VAZ Synths products have been suspended in order to comply with the change in UK/EU cross-border VAT regulations effective 1st January 2015.

Same thing perhaps?

anyone know what this is exactly?
madness:

http://www.theguardian.com/small-busine ... ffect-smes

Camel Audio seems like the exact type of company that would be affected most by this...

that'll be it.
set fire to a tax collector today....

Touch The Universe · Post by **Touch The Universe** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:31 am

I don't understand that, can someone sum that up?

TonyVegas · Post by **TonyVegas** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:31 am

parma wrote:
ATS wrote:
Cuauhtli wrote:Sales of VAZ Synths products have been suspended in order to comply with the change in UK/EU cross-border VAT regulations effective 1st January 2015.

Same thing perhaps?

anyone know what this is exactly?
madness:

http://www.theguardian.com/small-busine ... ffect-smes

Camel Audio seems like the exact type of company that would be affected most by this...

So... in other words... say goodbye to buying anything from Europe in the foreseeable future?

TonyVegas · Post by **TonyVegas** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:34 am

But then, sensibility is not what one would expect from a part of the world that recently outlawed incandescent light bulbs. Is anyone among the citizenry actually paying attention to what your governments are doing over there? Anyone at all?

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:36 am

Voice303 wrote:I was going to grab a few more expansion packs here too...

At least I have Dream Voices. You couldn't pry Dream Voices out of my cold dead hands

Yet.

werp · Post by **werp** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:36 am

mysticvibes wrote:I don't understand that, can someone sum that up?

paperwork for a small business selling product within the EU will increase by 4 million percent....
small businesses in this field won't be able to afford to run...

Camel Audio ceasing sales? [Update: CA acquired by Apple]