Camel Audio ceasing sales? [Update: CA acquired by Apple]

[whyterabbyt]

Point is, there is nothing legally preventing CA, if this is a legal issue, from coming here and issuing a statement saying this...

"We cannot discuss the statement posted on the web site."

says who?

Since no statements as such are coming, you can be 99% sure that this is not a legal matter, such as another company buying CA.

No we cant.

[mutantdog]

What happens to those users who have saved up pots of Camel Credit to pay for Alchemy v2 upgrade

Is it all now worthless?

My CamelCredits appear to be gone. Was holding them for upgrade fees. Had i known about this i'd have bought a soundbank instead.

[fmr]

Point is, there is nothing legally preventing CA, if this is a legal issue, from coming here and issuing a statement saying this...

"We cannot discuss the statement posted on the web site."

Except if that is stated in the terms of the agreement. What about something like:
Both parts commit to not disclose any kind of information publicly or otherwise, until the agreement terms are completely fulfilled, on which date a public oficial announcement will be made by both parts simultaneoulsy?

Would something like that be legal enough?

[chk071]

Okay, here's the deal, legally, on the "not being able to talk about it" and I'll correlate this to another company which had the same issue. There was an action that they had taken with one of their products that had everybody in a tizzy and their only response was "We cannot discuss this." Period.

Point is, there is nothing legally preventing CA, if this is a legal issue, from coming here and issuing a statement saying this...

"We cannot discuss the statement posted on the web site."

Since no statements as such are coming, you can be 99% sure that this is not a legal matter, such as another company buying CA.

That leaves only personal matters such as death, partnership disagreements, etc. that they just don't want to get into for whatever personal reason.

Point is, there is nothing legally that prevents a company from issuing a "no comment" statement. The fact that they made an initial statement about the discontinuing of the product at all is much more revealing than had they simply tacked onto the end of it...

"We're sorry but we can't comment further on this."

That they didn't do that and that they haven't come here or anywhere else for that matter with any kind of statement is beyond odd. In fact, it makes no sense for the silence.

As for my own speculation, I won't bother. I have my theories but they're all pointless. Until we hear something official, which we may never, this is all just blowing off steam.

For the record, I have the player, which I do use from time to time and have contemplated getting the full blown product.

I guess I can cross that one off my future purchases list.

Very, very odd indeed.

That's actually what i'm thinking too.

I know it's an entirely differen thing, but due to (possible) regulation changes, the drivers in formula 1 weren't allowed either to talk about team changes, and stuff like that, and the comment was always "I'm not allowed to talk about it.". I don't think there's any legal issue with a comment like that. Why is it not coming here?

[U-o]

That's really sad, I wanted to buy (back) PhatSpace bundle, and now is too late.

[basslinemaster]

I haven't read all 32 pages of this thread, so forgive me if this has already been addressed, but why would anybody who has worked so hard on some software just shut down a website, when they could just continue to sell whatever they had already made, maybe at a reduced price, and with reduced support? It's not as if, once development has been finished, there is anything much to do, so I would have thought they could have continued to run it in their spare time.

[Numanoid]

My CamelCredits appear to be gone. Was holding them for upgrade fees. Had i known about this i'd have bought a soundbank instead.

That is really uncool, hope they will be made good to you

I only had 2 left, so it doens't matter that much in my case

[quietman]

Gutted!!!

One of my favorite vsts... I suspect it is partly to do with the new VAT EU rules... I thought something was wrong when they did not announced any sales over the festive period.

I saw this with Kore... these vsts were closely linked in design.. The only company that could probably bring this back to life would be Native Instruments!

[Redukt]

That's really sad, I wanted to buy (back) PhatSpace bundle, and now is too late.

You can still buy it from JRRShop: http://www.jrrshop.com/camel-audio-phat ... ad-license

[noiseboyuk]

Point is, there is nothing legally preventing CA, if this is a legal issue, from coming here and issuing a statement saying this...

"We cannot discuss the statement posted on the web site."

Since no statements as such are coming, you can be 99% sure that this is not a legal matter, such as another company buying CA.

I'm not sure I'm buying those odds. Some vast logical mis-steps there.

Since we're deep up Speculation Creek without a paddle, I think personal circumstances are the least likely option. In almost every case I can think of regarding this, running closing down sales etc would be the most logical next step. Redmatica, though not an identical situation, is the closest fit from every theory so far that I've read. The 2nd most likely explanation is VAT - if they'd traded ignoring the new rules and got in trouble, perhaps. Doesn't seem entirely plausible though.

[cryophonik]

Well... I am not that worried anymore.

I am sure that someone will be in touch soon, possibly today.

Sounds like Luftrum now knows what's up and, if he's not worried, then that's pretty reassuring.

[beely]

I haven't read all 32 pages of this thread, so forgive me if this has already been addressed, but why would anybody who has worked so hard on some software just shut down a website, when they could just continue to sell whatever they had already made, maybe at a reduced price, and with reduced support? It's not as if, once development has been finished, there is anything much to do, so I would have thought they could have continued to run it in their spare time.

Because it looks likely to be a buyout.

If so, the company, brand, it's IP and all it's assets now belong to another company, who will do whatever they wish with it.

A company, even going through hard times, would not wind it up like this, there would be a more definite statement and winding down - all the signs point to a buyout.

[Numanoid]

Sounds like Luftrum now knows what's up and, if he's not worried, then that's pretty reassuring.

F*ck that probably means this thread will die off

Where's the fun when the truth is out and no more speculation can be done

[U-o]

I haven't read all 32 pages of this thread, so forgive me if this has already been addressed, but why would anybody who has worked so hard on some software just shut down a website, when they could just continue to sell whatever they had already made, maybe at a reduced price, and with reduced support? It's not as if, once development has been finished, there is anything much to do, so I would have thought they could have continued to run it in their spare time.

+10000 Please, CamelAudio give us a chance to buy your plugins...

[quietman]

Perhaps they could do with a 'crowd funding' approach to help them stay in development. I would certainly chip in to keep them afloat!