Long & McQuade shows no products as of this morningwhyterabbyt wrote:Needs repeated.beely wrote:For those interested, query your retailers as to whether this is possible or not - and let us know the outcome, would be good info to have.
Camel Audio ceasing sales? [Update: CA acquired by Apple]
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- KVRAF
- 16977 posts since 23 Jun, 2010 from north of London ON
Barry
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing
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- KVRAF
- 11162 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
Good point. I'm away, so, I can't check today, but yesterday I didn't.tooneba wrote:Did anyone get email about this new? Why should all their customer need to read forums or a music magazine website to get this important notice?
Fernando (FMR)
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- KVRer
- 4 posts since 9 Jan, 2015
"There is no entitlement here. I simply want to make a purchase and I am being told I can't even though the product itself is still in existence."
That's the problem with your thought.
The software is no longer in existence. Pipeline has been shut off, it does not exist any more. What they are doing, instead of just saying "sorry suckers," they are giving people who already own a copy a chance to not loose it forever in case they thought they could always download it from the server. This does not mean it is in existence. Just like a hardware company not making new products. Just because they are still offering some long term support for the current product, does not mean any new ones will be made.
-James
That's the problem with your thought.
The software is no longer in existence. Pipeline has been shut off, it does not exist any more. What they are doing, instead of just saying "sorry suckers," they are giving people who already own a copy a chance to not loose it forever in case they thought they could always download it from the server. This does not mean it is in existence. Just like a hardware company not making new products. Just because they are still offering some long term support for the current product, does not mean any new ones will be made.
-James
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- KVRAF
- 16977 posts since 23 Jun, 2010 from north of London ON
I am complaining!!!whyterabbyt wrote:Up next : someone finally realises CA5000 is no longer on sale and starts complaining.
Barry
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing
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- KVRer
- 4 posts since 9 Jan, 2015
Also, it is only going to be worthless to consumers in 7 months due to lack of updates and support. If someone still owns the tech, it is still worth a good amount of money to them.wagtunes wrote:If I thought I was entitled to this, or any software for that matter, I wouldn't have spent over 10 grand on software. i would have just pirated it.whyterabbyt wrote:Only if you think your perceived entitlement to the software is the metric for the situation.wagtunes wrote:Sorry, but IMO, that is beyond crazy.
There is no entitlement here. I simply want to make a purchase and I am being told I can't even though the product itself is still in existence.
I am not in any way taking money out of the mouths of CA as they are no longer in business as sales have stopped. In fact, I am offering to give them money for something that I know in 7 months is going to be worthless.
How is that in any definition entitlement?
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- KVRAF
- 5913 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany
Is this confirmed by Camel Audio that they are out of business? Closing the online shop is IMO not the same... hmmm....
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- KVRAF
- 3051 posts since 6 Jul, 2013
Jrrshop says for the Alchemy purchase:beely wrote:*I* said *if* there are retailers out there that had copies for sale, which included the serial number, then a sale would presumably be possible. I don't know if that's the case. Obviously if it requires going to the Camel servers then it's not going to work - but if it was boxed product with a serial number, or pre-generated serials, as happens with other software, then sales would be presumably possible.
"You will receive a free extra sound library automatically when you register your serial number with Camel Audio's support account."
Which suggests you get the serial number with purchase, so you should be good to go. I'd probably want to verify that with them first, pre-purchase to make sure (they might have stopped selling it, without taking it off the site yet).
That wasn't too much effort to figure out - so it *looks* like it might be possible to still get a license for a short term - same with the sound libraries - while the support site is still up. And that was just the first retailer I tried.
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- KVRAF
- 1524 posts since 6 Nov, 2012
Is that all?... Modifing the top page, sending an email to music magazine, and done? Ok that's dissapointing. I thought they were more fair people.thecontrolcentre wrote:It's on Camels website ...
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35449 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
and of course the fact that it mysteriously didnt become worthless in the 24 months since the last major update is irrelevant to the panic over that suddenly happening 6 months and one day from now.jyanisko wrote:Also, it is only going to be worthless to consumers in 7 months due to lack of updates and support.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRAF
- 2236 posts since 23 May, 2005 from West Country, UK
It will be interesting to see what happens to the libraries when all is done and dusted.
If Apple has bought CA then we aren’t going to be seeing Alchemy 2. We might see some of Alchemy 2's technology implemented into a new sampler to replace the ageing EXS24, and possbily in some other places within Logic 11. Whatever happens, the sound libraries would not likely be compatible so it would be sad if they were not set free for Alchemy 1 users.
If its another company then we may or may not see something approaching the current design for Alchemy 2 for which the libaries are supposed to be compatible.
I would suspect though that it’s the technologies and wetware that is being bought here and that whatever use they are put to the libraries will be surplus to requirements. It would be great if they were set free (whether paid or given away).
If Apple has bought CA then we aren’t going to be seeing Alchemy 2. We might see some of Alchemy 2's technology implemented into a new sampler to replace the ageing EXS24, and possbily in some other places within Logic 11. Whatever happens, the sound libraries would not likely be compatible so it would be sad if they were not set free for Alchemy 1 users.
If its another company then we may or may not see something approaching the current design for Alchemy 2 for which the libaries are supposed to be compatible.
I would suspect though that it’s the technologies and wetware that is being bought here and that whatever use they are put to the libraries will be surplus to requirements. It would be great if they were set free (whether paid or given away).
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- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
If U-He just bought Camel Audio this could be the new logo:
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- KVRAF
- 2831 posts since 11 Jun, 2003
Did you log in to the support site? There is no way to create a new account. You can only log in to an existing account. Even then, once you are in, I don't see a way to register a new serial number...
Play it by ear
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- KVRAF
- 3051 posts since 6 Jul, 2013
Ok, that would certainly change things if there is some online component and the user coldn't just plug their serial number into their own download/diskinstall - thanks for the info! No, I didn't try to register a new product...pheeleep wrote:Did you log in to the support site? There is no way to create a new account. You can only log in to an existing account. Even then, once you are in, I don't see a way to register a new serial number...
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- Banned
- 771 posts since 22 Jan, 2011 from Ableton Suite 9 and Reaper
you just earned one upvoteIngonator wrote:If U-He just bought Camel Audio this could be the new logo:
ohh we are not on imgur
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- Banned
- 22457 posts since 5 Sep, 2001
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