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Dasheesh · Post by **Dasheesh** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:15 pm

Dasheesh wrote:oh yeah...nix the presets in the new version. A synth musician does not want to play a synth that someone else already claimed possession of and completed and finished for you, and a synth player is not interested in a synth that the club kids get ahold of and run into the ground. Keep it classy. Keep it in the domain of the synthesist musician.

JongHo · Post by **JongHo** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:15 pm

If I am correct, 2016 is NI's 20th anniversary. I expect that NI is making surprising upgrades to their existing synths with upcoming new Komplete package under the hood, I hope.

Phorous · Post by **Phorous** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:25 pm

An iPad controller app like OmniTR and Alchemy Mobile would be nice.

wetdentist · Post by **wetdentist** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:41 pm

NI is a totally different company now than what it was when it was developing Absynth & Kore. i just don't see a new Absynth as part of their business model

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:54 pm

You might not, but they still do

Introspective · Post by **Introspective** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:04 pm

Better &*#$^ing filters.

Honestly, I would use Absynth soooo much more if the filters weren't 1990 vst filters.

A real patch library manager. It's time for NI to grow up about this.

A better envelope editor. ...The one it has is very powerful, and makes really complex envelopes possible... but it doesn't make the easy envelopes easy.

Those three things, and Absynth would probably be in my top three synths. Other nice-to-haves would be:

Allowing multiple effects
Patch layering
Massive-style visual representation of modulation
Continuing their tradition of inspiring, evolving patches that you cannot get on other synths.

loachm · Post by **loachm** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:23 pm

Introspective wrote: A real patch library manager. It's time for NI to grow up about this.

...care to elaborate? Or am I not getting this?

As far as I can tell NI are one of a few companies that, in fact, have a patch libray system in their synths. And, if I remember correctly, they were the first to offer that with Kore. Alchemy, Omnisphere et al. came later, if I'm not mistaken. And via Maschine and Komplete Kontrol you can access and organise all of your NI presets within a plug-in.

(Still, I can't get over the fact that they dropped the "Timbre" category...

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aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:25 pm

loachm wrote:
Introspective wrote: A real patch library manager. It's time for NI to grow up about this.
...care to elaborate? Or am I not getting this? As far as I can tell NI are one of a few companies that, in fact, have a patch libray system in their synths. And, if I remember correctly, they were the first to offer that with Kore. Alchemy, Omnisphere et al. came later, if I'm not mistaken. And via Maschine and Komplete Kontrol you can access and organise all of your NI presets within a plug-in.

(Still, I can't get over the fact that they dropped the "Timbre" category...)

Yes NI were ahead of the pack, but then they regressed.

Ameyah Audio · Post by **Ameyah Audio** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:47 pm

new modern GUI. everything is good in Absynth.

loachm · Post by **loachm** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:51 pm

aMUSEd wrote:Yes NI were ahead of the pack, but then they regressed.

...well, as a company that wants to grow and has to pay hundreds of employees I can understand the decision to discontinue Kore. As much as I love this software there were always some things that fell short of my expectations (i.e. only three parameters mappable per knob IIRC). But in the long run it's only logical for me that something like Kore will be reintroduced (the Komplete Browser being such a thing). I wouldn't mind to see a Kombinator or Kontainer in Maschine 3...

SuitcaseOfLizards · Post by **SuitcaseOfLizards** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:56 pm

wasi wrote:In my limited universe, yeah, the UI needs a fundamental overhaul. Those little buttons to manipulate the values... I mean, short of manual value entry, what could possibly be worse?

I really feel Absynth could be getting overlooked a lot because the UI gives such a wrong impression of what it's capable of.

+1000

Just getting into Absynth 5 and it's a headache, amazing synth but.. ffs.. modernize the UI!

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:02 pm

loachm wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:Yes NI were ahead of the pack, but then they regressed.
...well, as a company that wants to grow and has to pay hundreds of employees I can understand the decision to discontinue Kore. As much as I love this software there were always some things that fell short of my expectations (i.e. only three parameters mappable per knob IIRC). But in the long run it's only logical for me that something like Kore will be reintroduced (the Komplete Browser being such a thing). I wouldn't mind to see a Kombinator or Kontainer in Maschine 3...

Yeah but it is still a huge step backwards, Kore was a preset manager (and much more) - what is left of the Kore browser in Absynth, FM8 and Massive are at best preset browsers but they have lost the management functionality and in fact are all broken in several respects since they lost the link to Kore. Same with Komplete Browser, it's just a browser, you can't manage presets with it, you can't even rate or tag them at the moment. Hopefully that will come though but it seems NI will end up having to reinvent something that they once were leaders in.

btw don't know where you got that "three parameters mappable per knob" idea, you can map as many params to a knob as you need, although in practice I tend to prefer 1 per knob anyway unless I'm creating insane 'knobs of doom" (eg in my MFM2 template I made one knob to rule them all that was mapped to every modulation for crazy fun)

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:05 pm

I generally like the patch browser. Though editing tags of multiple presets at once would be nice.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:13 pm

As a browser it's fine, but for managing large libraries it is pretty useless as it stands.

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:30 pm

aMUSEd wrote:As a browser it's fine, but for managing large libraries it is pretty useless as it stands.

Yeah true. Haven't tried anything in a while. I never figured out how to rename a library. Do you still have to edit each sound one at a time?

What would you like to see in Absynth 6?