Never forget: Permut8

[V0RT3X]

Made a few Permut8 patches.

Permut8ProgramV1: {
Name: "8bitDrone"
Modified: false
InputLevel: 0.08640289 dB
Limiter: On
FilterFreq: --- Hz
FilterPlacement: Output
FeedbackAmount: 110.00000000 %
FeedbackFlip: On
FeedbackInvert: On
OutputLevel: 0.00000000 dB
Mix: 100.00000000 %
ClockFreq: 4/1
SyncMode: Standard
Reverse: Off
Operator1: MUL
Operand1.High: 0x40
Operand1.Low: 0x80
Operator2: OR
Operand2.High: 0xEF
Operand2.Low: 0xC2
}



Here's another cool buffer effect. Tweak the feedback knob to get different results.

Permut8ProgramV1: {
Name: "Buffer_switchback"
Modified: false
InputLevel: 0.08640289 dB
Limiter: On
FilterFreq: LP 1980.30615234 Hz
FilterPlacement: Feedback
FeedbackAmount: 59.95000076 %
FeedbackFlip: Off
FeedbackInvert: Off
OutputLevel: 0.00000000 dB
Mix: 100.00000000 %
ClockFreq: 2/1
SyncMode: Standard
Reverse: Off
Operator1: AND
Operand1.High: 0xE0
Operand1.Low: 0x04
Operator2: MSK
Operand2.High: 0xD7
Operand2.Low: 0xF5
}


Another Buffer Freeze Beat effect! Let it run over a drum loop and listen to the looping mayhem!

Permut8ProgramV1: {
Name: "Buffer_freeze_beat"
Modified: false
InputLevel: 0.08640289 dB
Limiter: On
FilterFreq: LP 15337.01269531 Hz
FilterPlacement: Off
FeedbackAmount: 0.00000000 %
FeedbackFlip: Off
FeedbackInvert: Off
OutputLevel: 0.00000000 dB
Mix: 100.00000000 %
ClockFreq: 4/1
SyncMode: Standard
Reverse: Off
Operator1: AND
Operand1.High: 0xD4
Operand1.Low: 0x80
Operator2: OR
Operand2.High: 0xB0
Operand2.Low: 0x80
}

[Sendy]

This thing is SO GOOD, and with the new firmware it just got like 4x better and funnerer.

Who needs to be spoon-fed buffer mangling effects when you can be a mad scientist and experiment with this thing, eventually even understand it ( ), and design your own convoluted glitches to be triggered on command via MIDI?

The feedback, distortion and filtering are also very, very, good, giving you the best of analog and digital and a very hardware-like sound.

Sometimes I like to limit myself to a few hardware-like plugins and find many different ways of using and abusing them. Back to hardware mentality. This helps me with that 100%. It's just glorious.

[themossinator]

Great little plugin - im using the delay presets a lot, you get a nice effect when switching between delay times

[PurpleCatfishBettie]

how do you automate the 'on/off' toggle switches? in renoise, it only appears to list the main controls, but none of the switches within the 4 sets of 8 on-off toggle switches. is it possible to automate each of these 32 on/off switches? maybe i'm overlooking something, but these switches don't appear to be in the 'automation list'.

[KBSoundSmith]

Permut8 is a really cool effect, but I just can't make myself buy it. It does sound great, but I don't have the time to learn how to use it well, it's a bit of a workflow killer. I know Soniccharge was trying to make something really novel and experimental, which I admire, but it just isn't a tool for everybody.

[Gone soft]

how do you automate the 'on/off' toggle switches? in renoise, it only appears to list the main controls, but none of the switches within the 4 sets of 8 on-off toggle switches. is it possible to automate each of these 32 on/off switches? maybe i'm overlooking something, but these switches don't appear to be in the 'automation list'.

I can only find the MIDI control of bits (EDIT: goes for FL Studio 11 and Reaper 4), which as I've pointed out in their forum should be better documented in the manual. It doesn't say excactly which MIDI keys to use, and I know I'll keep forgetting which excact range for each of the rows. Yes, there's one range for the first row and a gap before there's another range for the second row... I think each note on toggles the corresponding bit to the opposite position of whatever it was at, and then the note off makes it go back to its original position again..

EDIT: also thanks Sendy for indirectly making me give this one another try as I noticed this thread, it just confused the heck out of me the first time around but now it's starting to make some kind of sense. Confusing and fascinating is a surprisingly rare combination, I've encountered plenty of plugins that just do one or the other for me... Purchased!

[PurpleCatfishBettie]

i wondered about that but thanks for pointing out the specifics.

as for the plug-in overall... what a great plug-in! is this the best plug-in ever? maybe so. lol

[V0RT3X]

how do you automate the 'on/off' toggle switches? in renoise, it only appears to list the main controls, but none of the switches within the 4 sets of 8 on-off toggle switches. is it possible to automate each of these 32 on/off switches? maybe i'm overlooking something, but these switches don't appear to be in the 'automation list'.

It doesn't show up in Ableton Live either.

Hopefully Sonic Charge will consider adding this in the future, because it would really be fun to automate the switches individually.

[PurpleCatfishBettie]

oh, here's how it might work. apparently there are 4 8-switch banks:

Operator1:
operand1 high
operand2 low
Operator2:
operand1 high
operand2 low

the 'operands' are the individual 8-switch banks. by setting an automation value for any of these 4 'operand' parameters, you can create any number between 0-255, each number between 0-255 being a unique toggle switch setting for a given 8-switch bank. is that basically how it is working? yeah... looks like 00-FF in the led thingie.

(edited)

[Gone soft]

oh, here's how it might work. apparently there are 4 8-switch banks:

Operator1:
operand1 high
operand2 low
Operator2:
operand1 high
operand2 low

the 'operands' are the individual 8-switch banks. by setting an automation value for any of these 4 'operand' parameters, you can create any number between 0-255, each number between 0-255 being a unique toggle switch setting for a given 8-switch bank. is that basically how it is working? yeah... looks like 00-FF in the led thingie.

(edited)

Oh my, it's alive, alive, ahahaha! I feel daft I didn't pick up on how it works, kind of makes sense given the nature of the plugin. I never managed to make absolute sense if hex numbers though. But like with the plugin one can sort of throw something in there and see what happens, and then build upon what sticks in ones ears so to speak. Now I can finally use those stair patterns for automation lines in FL Studio for something.

[PurpleCatfishBettie]

'kind of makes sense given the nature of the plugin'

it's 'elegant and geeky at the same time' innit?

this is an amazing plug-in!

between permut8 and its new 'firmware', and glitch 2.0, that's a pretty good basis for some 'fsu'.

[VariKusBrainZ]

Hmm, so we could use an arp for example to automate the switches?

[Burillo]

this update is mostly what has led me to purchase the full SC bundle. they were on my radar for a long time, but i haven't really demoed anything (well, i did demo Synplant a while ago). having heard of the update, i went to download the whole bundle (sadly, new firmwares are for paid users only, but i ended up demoing everything anyway).

Synplant is an unusual synth, but it's relatively easy to come up with sounds i'm looking for - just plant the seed, sample the branch that sounds closest to what i want, plant it, rinse, repeat. Bitspeek is a fun effect, although not something i would use often. permut8 is very inspiring, and the new firmwares are just great, something i would probably use more often than the original firmware. microtonic is very nice. i have Tremor, but it's so powerful sometimes it gets very daunting to program it. microtonic is much more limited in what it can achieve sonically, but it's so much easier to program that i end up using microtonic in a lot of places where i would have used Tremor previously.

[Endor-8o8]

Wrong post.

[rustman]

...aaaaaaand I was compelled to buy Permut8. Gee, thanks guys. I'll hunt squirrels for dinner for the next month. ...I got Bitspeek too...