KVR Audio

werp · Post by **werp** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:51 am

jdnz wrote:
werp wrote:
SODDI wrote:
werp wrote:My favourite Camel goes by the name of 'Bloody Stupid' . Although he is a ship of the desert, he is in fact one of the best mathematicians on Discworld. Unfortunately, not many people speak Camel so his talents are very much under-utilised.
You can find out about his adventures if you can be bothered to read 'Pyramids' by Sir Terry Pratchett.
That camel is named You Bastard.
oops..Bloody Stupid lives over in Tsort....
Sorry!
sadly missed opportunity to change your location to 'didjabringabeeralong, xxxx' too

There's an idea

If you ever see a jar of vegemite, just run away....

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:37 pm

I just realized I spent an hour creating patches in Alchemy and never used anything but the VA/Basic/Saw wave.........

Alchemy has always been a highly underrated VA synth.....

Sorry didn't mean to interrupt.....

SuitcaseOfLizards · Post by **SuitcaseOfLizards** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:45 pm

trimph1 wrote:Is anyone wearing sackcloth and ashes yet?

My sack-cloth is at the dry cleaners for another week yet!

..still using Alchemy, though.

FINALLY got the damned backup stuff to download.. geebus..

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:50 pm

SyntheticAurality wrote:
trimph1 wrote:Is anyone wearing sackcloth and ashes yet?
My sack-cloth is at the dry cleaners for another week yet!

..still using Alchemy, though. FINALLY got the damned backup stuff to download.. geebus..

I had to manually install here.

Lejurai · Post by **Lejurai** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:00 pm

Unfocused wrote:First Sonar goes to "subscription" model

Only optional

You can still buy those other versions.

dune_rave · Post by **dune_rave** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:09 pm

Oh now i see - alchemy will be the new secret weapon of the new sonar!

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:20 pm

Lejurai wrote:
Unfocused wrote:First Sonar goes to "subscription" model
Only optional You can still buy those other versions.

From reading the other thread, yes, but you don't get support without the subscription version.

beely · Post by **beely** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:22 pm

Teksonik wrote:I just realized I spent an hour creating patches in Alchemy and never used anything but the VA/Basic/Saw wave.........
Alchemy has always been a highly underrated VA synth.....

It is a great VA, quite flexible. However, for me, Alchemy's strength is a toolset that lets me sound design in a different way that I can't on other synths. I have plenty of VA's already, but none that can work with organic sound in interesting ways.

For instance, the other night, I dug out Alchemy, chose a preset pad sound, whacked it through a ridiculously long/infinite reverb and played some notes to create a harmonically interesting drone for about 40 seconds. Bounced that to audio, and chose another sound and did a similar part, bounced that to audio as well. Then played both those tracks, with a little bit of other fx's and panning automation in the DAW, and bounced that down to a stereo file.

I took that final bounce, and loaded it up into a granular oscillator in Alchemy, played around with the granular stuff, duplicated onto a second oscillator and changed the settings, both oscillators going through independent filters with a little bit of modulation - literally the synthesis stuff took like five minutes, nothing complex going on all, but ended up with this lovely stuttering subtley morphing gorgeous textural pad.

I really like how I can do a bit more organic synthesis and audio/sample manipulation than a typical VA, really easily but with a lot of power and potential. It's like a "synthpler", and it's unique toolset and capabilities mean it earns a place in my setup and can't be easily replaced by other instruments.

It's a great VA, but it can go a lot further than that, and has a really well designed interface that's fast and easy but doesn't limit you or restrict you from doing complex things if you want to.

I really like it, a lot.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:03 pm

Finally it dawns on me why Camel Audio has given up on plugs.

They know the golden future lies in scaffolding!

http://www.camelspace.com/

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:44 pm

beely wrote:It's a great VA, but it can go a lot further than that,

Oh yes I'm fully well aware of that and I've gotten some amazing other worldly patches from Alchemy. I just wanted to point out the fact that even without samples to draw from it's a very capable synth..........

kbaccki · Post by **kbaccki** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:19 pm

Tjgoa wrote:kbaccki- spend 10 min reading the details. u have it incorrect

Now why would I go let a bunch of facts ruin a perfectly good rant?

Ok, I realize what Cake is doing is a bit different, but it reminded me of what's happening elsewhere in the industry with subscription models. But yeah, I agree their setup is different in terms of "value add" etc.

el-bo (formerly ebow) · Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:31 pm

werp wrote:If you ever see a jar of vegemite, just run away....

yup !! everyone knows that marmite is the only 'mite'

jdnz · Post by **jdnz** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:45 pm

el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
werp wrote:If you ever see a jar of vegemite, just run away....
yup !! everyone knows that marmite is the only 'mite'

except that's the inferior english muck - proper NZ made marmite is the one true spread

http://carondann.com/2013/05/25/marmiteversusvegemite/

GeorgeZ · Post by **GeorgeZ** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:18 pm

Numanoid wrote:Finally it dawns on me why Camel Audio has given up on plugs.

They know the golden future lies in scaffolding!

http://www.camelspace.com/

I wanted to post a pic of that the other day... as I drive into the city (Auckland) they are renovating a block of flats with a HUGE banner across their scaffolding structure... driving + taking pics = does not go well

werp · Post by **werp** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:22 pm

Seven out of ten men who've tried Vegemite prefer camels...umm...Promite

Camel Audio ceasing sales? [Update: CA acquired by Apple]