KVR Audio

lachrimae · Post by **lachrimae** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:52 pm

http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/21/micros ... indows-10/

What a gesture...

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:54 pm

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 5&t=430257

lachrimae · Post by **lachrimae** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:56 pm

Grr no wonder I didn't see it with that subject line :p

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:56 pm

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:03 pm

I figured they'd get around to trying that after Apple made OS X free. Thing is, free isn't required. Not being ridiculously expensive IS. But they're desperate to hold on to the legacy of operating system dominance they've enjoyed for decades, as the desktop computer becomes less and less relevant to average computing needs.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:06 pm

Jace-BeOS wrote:as the desktop computer becomes less and less relevant to average computing needs.

So what, Surface has killed of iPad

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:07 pm

Jace-BeOS wrote:I figured they'd get around to trying that after Apple made OS X free. Thing is, free isn't required. Not being ridiculously expensive IS. But they're desperate to hold on to the legacy of operating system dominance they've enjoyed for decades, as the desktop computer becomes less and less relevant to average computing needs.

Not really. It's just that one time payment models are depreciated. Google very well shows that. There's much more money to make with stores, and services, than with a product you pay for one time. The earlier Windows jumps aboard the train, the better for them, and the better for their users.

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:23 pm

Numanoid wrote:
Jace-BeOS wrote:as the desktop computer becomes less and less relevant to average computing needs.
So what, Surface has killed of iPad

Heh, funny... if Microsoft has enough money to keep taking a loss on those things just to get entrenched in corporate IT departments, like they did with Xbox, and like Intel did with Atom chips in mobile devices, maybe Apple's product will once again get left behind. This swinging pendulum has repeatedly moved in that back and forth motion all of computing history, so I don't presume it has stopped.

However, I'm personally done with Microsoft for productivity. If there are any games that I can buy for my 3GHz Dual Core PC with an old Nvidia 8800gtx, I'll keep playing games on my PC for a couple years yet and might end up with a free Windows 9, I mean 10. But I won't be doing much else on it. Certainly I won't be buying any Microsoft or Google-powered hardware for the foreseeable future.

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:25 pm

chk071 wrote:
Jace-BeOS wrote:I figured they'd get around to trying that after Apple made OS X free. Thing is, free isn't required. Not being ridiculously expensive IS. But they're desperate to hold on to the legacy of operating system dominance they've enjoyed for decades, as the desktop computer becomes less and less relevant to average computing needs.
Not really. It's just that one time payment models are depreciated. Google very well shows that. There's much more money to make with stores, and services, than with a product you pay for one time. The earlier Windows jumps aboard the train, the better for them, and the better for their users.

That's what they want us to think. Adobe and Cakewalk... I'm not playing.

I'm also not at all keen on hardware going that direction either. Three years max lifespan for laptops? Screw that, judge.

mutantdog · Post by **mutantdog** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:57 pm

I'd guess the bulk of Microsoft's income from the consumer market is the pre-installed Windows that comes on laptops and ready-to-go desktops. They are probably not expecting many to actually willingly upgrade in a hurry unless its free anyway.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:08 pm

Jace-BeOS wrote:
chk071 wrote:
Jace-BeOS wrote:I figured they'd get around to trying that after Apple made OS X free. Thing is, free isn't required. Not being ridiculously expensive IS. But they're desperate to hold on to the legacy of operating system dominance they've enjoyed for decades, as the desktop computer becomes less and less relevant to average computing needs.
Not really. It's just that one time payment models are depreciated. Google very well shows that. There's much more money to make with stores, and services, than with a product you pay for one time. The earlier Windows jumps aboard the train, the better for them, and the better for their users.
That's what they want us to think. Adobe and Cakewalk... I'm not playing.

You mean, like, there's a conspiracy? Well, it's difficult to argue then, as we're leaving the field of rational thinking, and entering the esoteric area.

It's a fact that Google makes a whole lot of money with their ad supported services, and its app store. It's a fact that both Microsoft and Apple are trying to do the same (apple even being the pioneer of app storing). Make of that what you wish.

SODDI · Post by **SODDI** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:38 pm

Perhaps Microsoft is frightened by the hordes of non-adapters in recent years - people (like me) who stuck with XP until it wasn't feasible anymore, people who have been continuing to use 7 and skipping 8 (and 8.1)...

And everyone who can still remember Vista. Nah, that's 7 years ago. Ancient history. No one remembers that far back.

werp · Post by **werp** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:41 pm

I stayed on 7.
the kids were horrified when their laptops died and only 8 was available...they trashed it and went Linux instead.
They're both geeks. Dunno where they get it from, I'm a nerd.

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:43 pm

chk071 wrote:
Jace-BeOS wrote:
chk071 wrote:
Jace-BeOS wrote:I figured they'd get around to trying that after Apple made OS X free. Thing is, free isn't required. Not being ridiculously expensive IS. But they're desperate to hold on to the legacy of operating system dominance they've enjoyed for decades, as the desktop computer becomes less and less relevant to average computing needs.
Not really. It's just that one time payment models are depreciated. Google very well shows that. There's much more money to make with stores, and services, than with a product you pay for one time. The earlier Windows jumps aboard the train, the better for them, and the better for their users.
That's what they want us to think. Adobe and Cakewalk... I'm not playing.
You mean, like, there's a conspiracy? Well, it's difficult to argue then, as we're leaving the field of rational thinking, and entering the esoteric area. It's a fact that Google makes a whole lot of money with their ad supported services, and its app store. It's a fact that both Microsoft and Apple are trying to do the same (apple even being the pioneer of app storing). Make of that what you wish.

Not conspiracy. Just tongue-in-cheek commentary about the myth of the free market with its invisible magic hand (which is really corporations trying new ways to squeeze more money out of the markets they've already saturated).

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:46 pm

SODDI wrote:Perhaps Microsoft is frightened by the hordes of non-adapters in recent years - people (like me) who stuck with XP until it wasn't feasible anymore, people who have been continuing to use 7 and skipping 8 (and 8.1)...

And everyone who can still remember Vista. Nah, that's 7 years ago. Ancient history. No one remembers that far back.

Yes they are. I stayed with Vista until late last year. Then I moved to 8.1.

Why? Because I'm poor, and Microsoft OS upgrade prices are insane. There was no 7 to buy at the point I decided enough was enough.

Win 10 to be a free upgrade for Win 7/8 users