Identifying Weird Chord

[Frantz]

FYI, you can look up this kind of stuff: http://www.scales-chords.com/findnotes_ ... =G&n4=&n5=

[jancivil]

I guess I could do that. But then I would be composing music on a "if it sounds good its good" mentality. Right now I prefer to understand the logic behind using it. When? Where? Why?...

Not necessarily. If the chord, in context, is CMaj7, then that's what it is. You would know what it is in relation to the rest of the composition. Chords are about relationships to the whole as much as they are about the actual notes.

Yes it is a Maj7. That much is solved. But I'm wondering if there is a certain logic behind composing with extended chords voiced in 3 or 4 voices. Does it take on the same approach as constructing chord progressions with triads or is it a different ball game all together? This much has me curious.

If you're looking for some truism that works for all music, stop that. The logic will apply to a musical decision. And it is triadic construction as far as we know.
Unless it's fifths construction: C G D A E B, and it's D and A left off in addition to E. It hardly matters, those are just devices; what is the musical consideration? You haven't given one. There is no single answer, no real answer to the question.

Who knows what that is except to the person 'composing'? I can give a hypothetical for excluding the third of this thing, maybe the third is already apparent by another means. It's the fifth partial often apparent with a fundamental with enough energy. Such as in overdriven amplified guitar, people do 'power chords' with no third. The {major} third is there in the overdrive and typically that third as stopped on the guitar is harsh on top of that for a couple of physical reasons.

[willdub1]

In jazz, you'll see all kinds of chords missing notes, although typically it's the 5th, not the 3rd, but in many cases you'll then see the melody line playing the missing notes.

So, in this scenario, you might see the melody or a backing musical element playing the missing note(s).

I guess this is something to always keep in mind. Thanks

[itneveris]

Holy hell, this thread... I cant even.... I have no f**king words.

Some of you guys desperately need to brush up on your theory, and some of you need to stop worrying so much and play some f**king music.

[willdub1]

Holy hell, this thread... I cant even.... I have no f**king words.

Some of you guys desperately need to brush up on your theory, and some of you need to stop worrying so much and play some f**king music.

At least the question was honest, and I wasn't trolling.. Would you prefer I asked why do men have nipples and how can I use them to play my piano..

[synzh]

From another perspective - it also matters the reason the chord needs to be named;
For example, when I've just discovered a nice chord progression (or even some complex chord I like) I may want to quickly write or type up the chord prog without putting notes in a sequencer or musical staff, then later maybe re-determine a more relevant/correct name if the track becomes worthy of building onto and has other related chords.

I'll usually try to simplify, say, removing duplicate notes if it's a monster many-keys chord, then if necessary rearranging the remaining notes to form stacked 3rds (like a triad, 7th, 9th or higher) or at least something that is close (in case of suspended 2nds or 4ths);
then based on that you could give it a name based on the lowest note, including things like (-5) for example if the fifth is missing;
Again, just to record it for your own posterity and later use.
The more you do this the easier it gets to "un-invert" chords and recognize them more quickly by sight

[nineofkings]

Gsus4: No, Gsus4 is made up of G C D; otherwise it isn't a Gsus4 but something else

Yeah, I wasn't sure what to call a chord that included both the third and the fourth, but missing enough parts that it'd be odd to call it an eleventh.

Em6: No, that would be E G B C#; it does have a flattened sixth

My mistake. I don't often think of minor sixth chords, so I assumed they'd be diatonic off the root in a minor key, similarly to the difference between a major and minor seventh.

[synzh]

Ah right 6th chords too

I'd call it some sort of C7(-5)

[ValliSoftware]

FYI, you can look up this kind of stuff: http://www.scales-chords.com/findnotes_ ... =G&n4=&n5=

Quick question.
The chords I listed have the notes C-B-G in them but I noticed that your list doesn't include many of those chords.
Is there a reason for excluding those chords?
I did go to your website and tested with checking certian checkboxes.

[Frantz]

The chords I listed have the notes C-B-G in them but I noticed that your list doesn't include many of those chords.
Is there a reason for excluding those chords?
I did go to your website and tested with checking certian checkboxes.

It's not my website. I found it by googling "chord finder." There are probably many similar sites. I think it is showing the most common chords rather than every possibility.

[jancivil]

Em6: No, that would be E G B C#; it does have a flattened sixth

My mistake. I don't often think of minor sixth chords, so I assumed they'd be diatonic off the root in a minor key, similarly to the difference between a major and minor seventh.

Not that it never happens but such as 'E G B C' is probably not from an E root. That is probably a C major seventh; C E G B being a straight tertial construct, Occam's Razor type of thing.
The minor triad add minor sixth is not much of a thing to talk about, in its tendency to carry this here ambiguity. So 'I don't often think of...' is kind of normal.
The thing exists on paper but usually an add sixth on a minor is the major sixth. And the usage (and the voicing) is where the meaning lies, NB: 'E G B C#' tends to the same thing, C# E G B being a straight tertial construct, C#ø7 aka C#m7 b5.

[jancivil]

I cant even....

Articulate any point at all? Guess not.

[itneveris]

I cant even....

Articulate any point at all? Guess not.

YES GOOD JOB THAT WAS THE POINT OF MY TRAILING OFF THERE, YOU'RE SO PERCEPTIVE!

You should be a detective.

[jancivil]

I detected, and I think this is pretty clear to all, that you dissed the whole thread without actually critiquing any point, or contributing anything but a shitty disposition.
I detect now that you can't even manage to do better than be snarky/sarcastic. Another asshole on the internet being shitty to people just because.

[sjm]

jan, you seem to have forgotten the first rule of the internet: don't feed the troll.