KVR Audio

kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 3:42 am

vurt wrote:i got a free lite version with my soundcard
never tried it tho
is it worth it if im happy where i am?
does it record audio well?if at all

You owe it to yourself to spend some time with the demo. Mess around with the clip envelopes for a while and see if you don't find yourself reaching for the plastic.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 3:51 am

so thats a yes then?

kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 4:56 am

vurt wrote:so thats a yes then?

Indeed.

Tonight I've been messing around with running very long pad loops through the Spectral Relativity impulses. Instant Robert Rich! Too bad they don't do ambient shows in San Francisco anymore.

It's pretty damn cool how much you can do in Live just with samples. Now if they'd just hurry up and start the public Live 4 beta...

ew · Post by ew » Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:22 am

vurt wrote:i got a free lite version with my soundcard
never tried it tho
is it worth it if im happy where i am?
does it record audio well?if at all

You'd love it,John

Yes it records audio.It also slices,dices and catches fish

(OK-not the last part

).
It's one of those apps I tell myself I should spend more time with-it's amazingly flexible.While I'm used to using it as a ReWire slave,the fact that I can host VSTis in Live 4 makes it much more usable on a day to day basis.
Try the demo-I first tried Live when the first demo came out back in 2001-I hadn't had that much fun making music in years

I'll have to post some Live tracks sometime...
ew

kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:22 am

To continue:

The thing that really sets Live apart from more conventional sequencers is the session view. Being able to just start throwing elements together in an improvisational way makes it possible to explore larger musical ideas much more quickly. This encourages experimentation and is also a lot more fun than banging in notes in Cubase or Sonar or Logic.

To really get the flavor of it try these things with the demo:

1. Just try tossing stuff around in the session view. Map clips to your keyboard or midi controller.

2. Mess around with sample offsets in the clip envelopes of percussion loops for easy & radical variations on rhythms.

3. Try unlinking the envelope clip from the parent clip to build entire phrases out of a short loop.

The Live training video at http://www.swavideo.com is pretty good and a cheap way to get an idea of what Live can do and to help figure out if it's worth $300 to you.

Sicklecell666 · Post by **Sicklecell666** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:23 am

sickle666 wrote:
LostBoy wrote:I must confess, guilty as charged, Live 4 is one heck of a program.
The thing about it is that when you're for example performing live, you dont have to have anything else but a nice case of sample cd's which you can load to program and start creating a new track by mixing your old / new loops/samples. And doing this all almost without a pain, no tricky preparations or anything. Just drop the samples, arrange them and let Live rock your life.
I like the user interface. It's just so simple, I used to think that ACID was most simple but still extremely powerful program for loop based composing. After Live 3 came, I was converted.
Lets just hope that Ableton will sell enough Lives to keep their office door opened.
Office doors will be closing, but it won't be Ableton's

Another convert here..I'd tell you what I'm learning but it's so easy to use I don't think I've had to learn anything at all

Yeah, I'm convrte-..........hold up..that's my own post

kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Sat Jul 10, 2004 6:58 pm

Just got the public beta 4. This thing is brilliant. The ability to drop in midi clips pushes it over the top. Cubase's days are numbered on my hard drive I suspect.

The only real negative is that it seems to be pretty unstable. Not unexpected for a beta version with so many new features, I guess.

Thanks to everybody that made such a fuss about this here. I probably wouldn't have looked into it otherwise. Making music is fun again.

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Sat Jul 10, 2004 8:45 pm

kuniklo wrote:I'll confess - I picked up a copy of Live 3 to make sure I got in for the cheap upgrade to 4.

Hey, that sounds familar! I did exactly the same thing, about a week ago. Upgraded from the Delta Live that came with my FW410 sound card because the promise of similar power using MIDI and audio together was enough for me.

kuniklo wrote:If Live 4's midi implementation compares at all to it's audio handling (don't know - missed the beta), it could very easily relegate Cubase to the bookshelf for me.

I missed getting into the Gang of Five Hundred, but now the beta's been thrown wide open to all Live owners, 1 through 3, possibly even including Delta. (Before opening it up, Ableton wanted to kill a nasty crash-inducing bug.) Check the website, grab your beta download, back up your important files (!!!), and play your little heart out. =^_^= It's looking pretty grand so far.

Meffy

[Edit: heh, I see you already did! didn't read the whole thread before replying...]

Sicklecell666 · Post by **Sicklecell666** » Sat Jul 10, 2004 9:09 pm

that's just great..& here I am stuck at fuckin work for the next ten hours..

original flipper · Post by **original flipper** » Sat Jul 10, 2004 9:20 pm

Hi

Charly don't surf - Apocalypse NOW!

Get back to work!

Flipper.

Sicklecell666 · Post by **Sicklecell666** » Sat Jul 10, 2004 9:29 pm

original flipper wrote:Hi

Charly don't surf - Apocalypse NOW!

Get back to work!

Flipper.

"I love the smell of MIDI in the morning.."

cron · Post by **cron** » Sat Jul 10, 2004 9:34 pm

Someone said in a thread a while ago that Live was like Audiomulch with bells on. I can't see the resemblence myself apart from it supposedly having quite powerful automation. Can anyone elaborate, or have they got it wrong?

soulkraka · Post by **soulkraka** » Sat Jul 10, 2004 9:50 pm

sickle666 wrote: "I love the smell of MIDI in the morning.."

original flipper · Post by **original flipper** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 12:15 am

Hi

NEVER GET OUT THE BOAT.

Flipper.

ls1xxx · Post by **ls1xxx** » Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:24 pm

kuniklo wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:22 am To continue:

The thing that really sets Live apart from more conventional sequencers is the session view. Being able to just start throwing elements together in an improvisational way makes it possible to explore larger musical ideas much more quickly. This encourages experimentation and is also a lot more fun than banging in notes in Cubase or Sonar or Logic.

To really get the flavor of it try these things with the demo:

1. Just try tossing stuff around in the session view. Map clips to your keyboard or midi controller.

2. Mess around with sample offsets in the clip envelopes of percussion loops for easy & radical variations on rhythms.

3. Try unlinking the envelope clip from the parent clip to build entire phrases out of a short loop.

The Live training video at http://www.swavideo.com is pretty good and a cheap way to get an idea of what Live can do and to help figure out if it's worth $300 to you.

I've wanted so so hard to get into this daw but its like with fl studio i tend to just end up making some sort of loop and cant do anything with it.

Have you been converted to Ableton Live ?