New granular synth: The Mangle

[Greg Houston]

It seems that the mapping has somewhat an offset of an 8th with what comes from the Daw. For example, when I play C3, it actually plays C2 in The Mangle.

The number associated with middle C in different DAWs is not the same. So C3 is not always C3. Are you using Reaper by chance?

[Edit] Dandruff beat me and you said you are using Reaper.

[lnikj]

It's not that uncommon for music software to disagree on whether middle C is C3 or C4.

[edit] lol, ditto

[Greg Houston]

Double post

[wagtunes]

Yeah, the problem is definitely the way different DAWs define middle C. Good luck with finding any kind of conformity. Just make a note of what the offset is and see if you can change the options in your particular DAW. Cubase seems to be fine but I haven't really paid too much attention to it since I mangle the heck out of the wav file anyway after importing, pardon the pun.

[rod_zero]

Has anyone tried The mangle in Ableton live 9?

I am demoing padshop pro and I keep crashig Live when draging and dropping samples in to PSP. Does any one use PSP or the mangle drag and drop functionality succesfully with Live?

Thanks

[Lesha]

Has anyone tried The mangle in Ableton live 9?

I am demoing padshop pro and I keep crashig Live when draging and dropping samples in to PSP. Does any one use PSP or the mangle drag and drop functionality succesfully with Live?

Working fine

[rod_zero]

What version of Live are you using?

[Lesha]

What version of Live are you using?

rod_zero wrote:Has anyone tried The mangle in Ableton live 9?

[cron]

Has anyone tried The mangle in Ableton live 9?

I am demoing padshop pro and I keep crashig Live when draging and dropping samples in to PSP. Does any one use PSP or the mangle drag and drop functionality succesfully with Live?

Thanks

I'm still on Live 8 here, but running Live as an administrator (assuming you're on Windows) solved a lot of drag and drop woes for me.

[wagtunes]

I have good news for Mangle sound developers. I ran a little test.

I took my presets and MP3s that I created for my patch library and moved everything to another part of my hard drive, as if I were doing a new install. I then chose a new preset directory and chose the new location. After doing this I pulled up a patch and the MP3 files were found.

The key is to make sure that the relative paths are the same when doing the install.

So, let's say the original paths for the presets and MP3s are as follows:

C:/TheMangle/MyStuff/Presets
C:/TheMangle/MyStuff/MP3

As long as Presets and MP3 are in the same relative location to each other, you should be fine.

So...

C:/YourMangle/YourStuff/Presets
C:/YourMangle/YourStuff/MP3

should have each preset pull up the corresponding MP3s associated with it with no problem.

You will have to include the wav or MP3 files with the presets when you sell your library and it's probably a good idea to have them in separate folders.

[Neon Breath]

Just out of curiosity, you guys really work with mp3? I can't understand the goal or the purpose working with ultra compressed low quality sounds. To me it's like if a photographer was working with jpg's instead of raw. What's the idea behind this? Again, just asking here...

[rod_zero]

Has anyone tried The mangle in Ableton live 9?

I am demoing padshop pro and I keep crashig Live when draging and dropping samples in to PSP. Does any one use PSP or the mangle drag and drop functionality succesfully with Live?

Thanks

I'm still on Live 8 here, but running Live as an administrator (assuming you're on Windows) solved a lot of drag and drop woes for me.

Thanks, still getting crashes with padshop, and yes I am on windows.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

Just out of curiosity, you guys really work with mp3? I can't understand the goal or the purpose working with ultra compressed low quality sounds. To me it's like if a photographer was working with jpg's instead of raw. What's the idea behind this? Again, just asking here...

mp3 doesn't necessarily mean "ultra compressed low quality sounds". I have most of my library in 320kbps aac, though a lot is at 192kbps. i have no issue listening to this amount of compression on a daily basis, so why would it be a problem as a sound source ??

the other thing for me is that i have never seen granular sounds as pristine (quite the opposite, in fact), so i am not going to be anal about only using the most pristine source. not all source material is suitable for these types of experiments, and having to convert every file i want to try is one workflow step too many

last week, i sent the developer a 'pm' about possible, future aac support. the email was read, but i received no response. that further cements my feelings about blindly handing money over to a project that could already be close to abandonware

[wagtunes]

Has anyone tried The mangle in Ableton live 9?

I am demoing padshop pro and I keep crashig Live when draging and dropping samples in to PSP. Does any one use PSP or the mangle drag and drop functionality succesfully with Live?

Thanks

I'm still on Live 8 here, but running Live as an administrator (assuming you're on Windows) solved a lot of drag and drop woes for me.

Thanks, still getting crashes with padshop, and yes I am on windows.

Size. Imagine creating a library of over 100 samples and 300 presets. The wav files would be enormous and downloading would take an eternity. Not to mention the hit on my server would force me to use a dedicated one if I ever sold enough of these.

In the digital domain, one you've taken the sound source and mangled it anyway, there is no discernible difference.

[Sampleconstruct]

In the digital domain, one you've taken the sound source and mangled it anyway, there is no discernible difference.

I totally disagree, especially when transposing granulated samples downwards by some octaves the aliasing gets extreme with low quality/compressed audio files.