One Synth Challenge #72: Eclipsis by VSTZONE (Richard Semper Wins!)

[crimsonwarlock]

some nice guys from the Eclipsis Thread put me gentle in chains and dragged me to here for to join the party (I`m just kidding).

Great to see the 'chaining and dragging' worked

Have fun

[wagtunes]

Well, I bit the bullet and decided what the heck. Here's the info for my track that I just uploaded.

Eclipses OSC Track Overview

DAW – Cubase 7.06

Preset Track and FX List

1 Mod of ArpAcidRythm
2 Dr Kick 2 with stock Cubase compressor and limiter
3 Dr Snare with stock Cubase compressor
4 Dr High Hat Closed
5 Custom lead with Cubase REVerance and Mono Delay
6 Custom lead with Cubase Ping Pong Delay
7 Custom Lead with Cubase RoomWorks Reverb
8 Custom lead with Cubase Stereo Delay
9 Custom Lead with Cubase Mono Delay and RoomWorks Reverb
10 Custom Lead with Cubase compressor and Stereo Delay
11 Inst_Virobell with Cubase Stereo Delay
12 Atmo Rest In Peace pad with Cubase RoomWorks Reverb and Stereo Delay
13 Noise with Cubase Ping Pong Delay, RoomWorks Reverb and compressor
14 Efx_Creepyhit
15 Pad Formant

All presets either came with Eclipsis, supplied by Mojo42 or programmed by myself.

Track Length: 3:07

Master Bus used Cubase compressor and Vladg/Sound's Limiter6, a free 3rd party plugin

Here it is.

https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... ang-osc-72

[Mojo42]

@wagtunes: Thanks for telling me your experiances and conclusions. Originally I know that you are right, it is just that I have to overcome my upload "phobia"

Concerning the age: Hm, I would call myself an old woman (although I feel like a child) And yes you are also right in what you said about becoming older. Carpe Diem

@bjporter: Thanks for the info. Okay then I will use the Soundcloud account I already have.

Upload phobia. Eh, screw it. What's the worst that can happen? Somebody says it sucks? I can wallpaper my house with all the rejection letters I got from music publishers.

Wayne Gretzky said it best.

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take."

I just will drink a bottle of Wodka and push the upload button when I can see it twice

Upload phobia. Eh, screw it. What's the worst that can happen? Somebody says it sucks? I can wallpaper my house with all the rejection letters I got from music publishers.

Wayne Gretzky said it best.

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take."

To be honest, the first few OSC's i participated in, I sweated before uploading, and could barely sleep. But after a while I think it was therapeutic.

YOU understand me

Also, someone somewhere hates your music. There's always somebody, so just try and make stuff you like, and practice / read up on tips, etc.

It`s not exactly that I fear negative feedback, because I know that not everyone can like my music alone because everybody has his/her own taste and so it is not personal if someone don`t like it.

Upload phobia is rather irrational. It is comparable with stage fright. In earlier days when I used to make music in bands and we had a gig then I was seriously ill at least 3 days before. After the gig I could not remember what I have played during the first 3 songs because I was close to faint.

It was simply horrible and I`m glad that it is over. I supposed that making music at the PC would solve this problem, but I have forgotten that to upload something is very similar as to be on stage.

But until now I don`t feel ill and so we have got a chance see me posting

I'm using all the stock verbs and compression that came with Cubase. It's real culture shock. LOL.

Does this mean that we have to? I mean: Are only internal effects allowed as Room Works Reverb by Cubase for example? If "yes" then culture shock is really the right expression Oh my god.

@sfiks: LOL. That`s just great!!! That`s the most happy Blues I`ve ever listened. No I don`t mind you using the name for the track. It suits very well. I`m glad that my presets seem to work well in practise. Good luck

Thank you for the comment!
It was fun to work on the piece. My feet still tap uncontrollably when I listen to it

Mine too

I haven't decided to submit it to the contest - still will be working on another piece.

Well, I love it, but a second song would also be intresting of course

What I love about this contest is that it pushes your creativity to start working. Listening to what others composed using the same tools is fun and and a great lesson also.

Yeah, it`s fun. It`s just a pity that my offtime is rare this month.

I hate voting,

Me too

but it comes with the territory. My 1st entry a couple of months ago won the last place

Don`t worry this time it will be mine on the last place

, still I love my baby.

That`s the right attitude!!!

Good luck to you too!
Slava

Thanks

some nice guys from the Eclipsis Thread put me gentle in chains and dragged me to here for to join the party (I`m just kidding).

Great to see the 'chaining and dragging' worked

Have fun

I have already (fun) and that without playing one single note on my keyboard until now. I will start today evening.

Well, I bit the bullet and decided what the heck. Here's the info for my track that I just uploaded.

Man that`s wild I think it`s great We have real 70`s revival in this contest I hope I will not get defaulted for the case that I make something "modern"

[wagtunes]

Man that`s wild I think it`s great We have real 70`s revival in this contest I hope I will not get defaulted for the case that I make something "modern"

70s? Yeah, grew up in the 60s and 70s so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

No one ever accused me of being "modern".

[doctorbob]

Man that`s wild I think it`s great We have real 70`s revival in this contest I hope I will not get defaulted for the case that I make something "modern"

70s? Yeah, grew up in the 60s and 70s so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

No one ever accused me of being "modern".

Hehe ... I was 10 years BEFORE you and still have fun putting up tunes to surprise and "entertain" people here. Of course, I can and have sometimes really surprised folk by doing a more modern "OSC-friendly" track!

The challenges here are to compose, design sounds with the synth for your own purpose, mix and "master" using DAW or free FX - submit and wait! With so many good free FX, this part of the challange is really not such an issue.

Simply an enjoyable experience, decent folk, good advice, and the 1 month deadline is just enough to give you that kick up the b*tt to get something finished

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[doctorbob]

It's real culture shock. LOL.

Totally OSC summed up in a few words

Yeah! But once you get your head around what restrictions the rules place on you, it's simply fun, and you can let those creative juices run wild. Just wish I could "juice" a few of those talented people here and drip some of their talent into my tracks Some amazing musicians here - the last comp certainly dragged them all out to play

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[fese]

I'm using all the stock verbs and compression that came with Cubase. It's real culture shock. LOL.

Does this mean that we have to? I mean: Are only internal effects allowed as Room Works Reverb by Cubase for example? If "yes" then culture shock is really the right expression Oh my god.

You can use other freeware reverbs like TAL or Voxengo or whatever, but being "forced" to use Roomworks (as I had no freeware reverb in my folder) I was quite surprised to realize that I could make it work. Now I am no mixmeister and maybe a more experienced person could produce a much better result with the likes of Valhalla and whatnot, but I was quite content with the result (I even got a positive comment on my mix in OSC70, thank you very much solidtracks )
The lack of an aggressive character compressor for drums in Cubase (I am on 6.5) might be something different but I solved it by not using drums

[rockingricky]

..... Of course, I can and have sometimes really surprised folk by doing a more modern "OSC-friendly" track!


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In the beginning, I sometimes want to compose a "modern track" with boom-tshak-boom-tshak or ambient style with swirling, jumping and buzzing sounds flapping thru my head....
but then, it always turns in an old school song with rythm, harmony and melody...

[photonic]

... In the beginning, I sometimes want to compose a "modern track" with boom-tshak-boom-tshak or ambient style with swirling, jumping and buzzing sounds flapping thru my head....
but then, it always turns in an old school song with rythm, harmony and melody...

I know how you feel

[doctorbob]

... In the beginning, I sometimes want to compose a "modern track" with boom-tshak-boom-tshak or ambient style with swirling, jumping and buzzing sounds flapping thru my head....
but then, it always turns in an old school song with rythm, harmony and melody...

I know how you feel

Fortunately for me, I'm much the same! Even my "excursions" into beepy, swishy, swirly paddy stuff still had leads, harmonies and rythmns, and even dissonance! - sigh ...

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[Mojo42]

I'm using all the stock verbs and compression that came with Cubase. It's real culture shock. LOL.

Does this mean that we have to? I mean: Are only internal effects allowed as Room Works Reverb by Cubase for example? If "yes" then culture shock is really the right expression Oh my god.

You can use other freeware reverbs like TAL or Voxengo or whatever, but being "forced" to use Roomworks (as I had no freeware reverb in my folder) I was quite surprised to realize that I could make it work. Now I am no mixmeister and maybe a more experienced person could produce a much better result with the likes of Valhalla and whatnot, but I was quite content with the result (I even got a positive comment on my mix in OSC70, thank you very much solidtracks )
The lack of an aggressive character compressor for drums in Cubase (I am on 6.5) might be something different but I solved it by not using drums

Thanks for your answer, but I have got already free tools. Maybe you can help me:
What`s about a free version of HOFA IQ Reverb? May I use this? I tested it recently and it sounds really good. What`s about mastering tools? Can I use one of this: MHORSE P3, Tone2 Akustix, EZmixLite?

I guess that would be all what I need. This song made in 4 days (or so) will be anyway a desaster but I see you all fear nothing and so I will join the suicidal mood

[bjporter]

I guess that would be all what I need. This song made in 4 days (or so) will be anyway a desaster but I see you all fear nothing and so I will join the suicidal mood

Take a quick read of the first quarter of this page here, and hopefully this will answer some of that
https://sites.google.com/site/kvrosc/rules

[Mojo42]

@bjporter: I have read the rules a third time already. I`m german The rules are in english. I`m a beginner, I don`t know which effect is called what (in english!!!), at least not all. I`m unsure and so I rather ask in detail. I don`t know if there are any modulations effects at HOFA IQ Reverb. I`m not an expert. Again: I`m beginner AND I`m german. I`m not sure if I understood the rules right. That`s why I ask.

I have problems with that "Modulation effect". Of course I understand that this means that it will change the original sound and that shall not be for the contest. But for me each effect changes the sound, I can`t say what exactly is a modulation effect and what not. If I`m sitting here in front of the GUI of all this tools I feel like I would standing at the control panel on the bridge of Starship Enterprise, you know?

I don`t know if at a certain effect tool somewhere a modulation effect is hidden I just not discovered yet. I`m learning by doing. I push the buttons, move the knobs and let my ears decide. I also watch tutorials and read a lot of course and so a couple of things I`m able to understand now, but I don`t know exactly if I may use the effects and tools I mentioned for the contest and better I ask before, so that you don`t have the work to tell me afterwards what I must remove all. Best one day before the deadline is, so that I can`t change anything anymore and then it is game over. Apart from that: Even if I would be english I probably wouldn`t understand the rules exactly, because I cannot handle an etc.pp because in general I always need detailed instruction.

But probably it doesn`t matter much, because I probably anyway would have no time left for to consider about which effects I wish to use or not

I`m glad if it sounds from the beginning until the end at least like a song at all!!! Reverb would be cool, but I also can use this..........arrrgh........ RoomWorks by Cubase. I guess it doesn`t matter much lol. Can I use Tone2 Akustix for the final touch? Please answer me just this one question and I will be happy. More is anyway not possible I`m afraid. I have to work at my job a lot up from now and only a few days offtime left, but first at the end of the month.

But for my first night of working at my project I made already an interesting discovery because of the lack of presets: I never supposed that Cello and Harp with Delay could suit so well to psychedelic Ambient grooves

One get ideas one would never have without this situation of borders and obstacles everywhere. I start to see the deeper sense in the OSC

[bjporter]

One get ideas one would never have without this situation of borders and obstacles everywhere. I start to see the deeper sense in the OSC

Hey there, I didn't mean to hassle you

Any plugin (Mastering, non-mastering, etc) can be used as long as it's:
1. Freeware, or in the Native Daw (So Cubase Reverb is fine, but Valhalla VintageVerb isn't)
2. Not a chorus / flanger / phaser / rotary thing (those are typical modulation effects)
3. Doesn't use any sampling / pitching like a tapestop
4. Distortion or any other powerful effect should be used sparingly

Hopefully that helps. And For the specific things you mentioned:

"What`s about mastering tools?" -> If they follow the above rules

Tone2 Akustix = no (not free)
MHORSE P3 = JA! (free)
HOFA IQ Reverb = no (Not free)
EZmixLite = no (not free)

[idfpower]

What`s about a free version of HOFA IQ Reverb? May I use this? I tested it recently and it sounds really good. What`s about mastering tools? Can I use one of this: MHORSE P3, Tone2 Akustix, EZmixLite?

The rules are simple: freeware effects and/or DAW effects only. Which means that you can't use a demo of a commercial plugin, or an effect you've got from CM/BE magazines - since those are not free, you technically pay (a few Euros) to get access to that "free" content

But don't worry, there are plenty of options:
Terry West (yes, MHorse P3 is ok - I use it on everything): http://www.terrywest.nl
Variety of Sound: https://varietyofsound.wordpress.com
Tokyo Dawn Labs: http://www.tokyodawn.net/tokyo-dawn-labs/
Voxengo: http://www.voxengo.com/group/free-vst-plugins/
Smartelectronics: http://www.smartelectronix.com/

And of course the KVR Audio Product Database: http://www.kvraudio.com/q.php + other vst aggregators, such as VST Planet ( http://www.vstplanet.com/ ), VST 4 Free ( http://www.vst4free.com/ ), myVST ( http://www.myvst.com/ ), etc.


Don't sweat All you have to do is submitting a song and including a list of the plugins you've used; if something is not allowed (commercial/modulators/etc) you will be kindly asked to remove or replace them with other conforming plugins - that's all Good luck