KVR Audio

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:16 pm

robotmonkey wrote:

Ah Torley. What a character. I can watch his videos all day.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:17 pm

Kriminal wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
Well, for whatever reason, I went back to their website and saw that two of the synths they make are Minimonsta and Oddity

Not quite....

No? Then what did I see there?

Then what's this?

https://www.ohmforce.com/ViewCategory.d ... ory=Synths

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:20 pm

Gmedia/Gforce made the synths, i think they just did the modulation part.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:24 pm

Kriminal wrote:Gmedia/Gforce made the synths, i think they just did the modulation part.

Then how are they allowed to sell them as their own products? Yes, I see GForce is also selling an Oddity and Minimonsta. Had no idea they were the same synths.

Again, how is this even possible? Do they have some kind of agreement between the two companies? Do they split the revenue on each sale?

This is very odd. Never seen anything like this.

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:37 pm

It clearly says on the website... 'in collaboration with'

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:44 pm

wagtunes wrote:
Kriminal wrote:Gmedia/Gforce made the synths, i think they just did the modulation part.
Then how are they allowed to sell them as their own products?

Click on the 'buy' link for Melohman or Oddity. Does that let you buy from Ohmforce or from GMedia?

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:47 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
Kriminal wrote:Gmedia/Gforce made the synths, i think they just did the modulation part.
Then how are they allowed to sell them as their own products?
Click on the 'buy' link for Melohman or Oddity. Does that let you buy from Ohmforce or from GMedia?

Symptome - Ohmforce

Minimonsta or Oddity - GForce

Well, I can see how this can be confusing as hell for some people.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:52 pm

Kriminal wrote:It clearly says on the website... 'in collaboration with'

Okay, so then they technically are part designers. I was not wrong in my initial statement.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:02 pm

wagtunes wrote:Okay, I admit. I'm a little bumfuzzled. But first some background.

Programming synths for over 36 years. Ran into Ohmforce a couple years back and quite honestly, disregarded all their stuff upon seeing those stupid GUIs. So I never bothered to even test out any of their synths or plugins.

They all have "classic" GUIs too ...

wagtunes wrote:Today, at another forum, I ran into a thread where members were discussing old plugins that they still use. One member brought up the Ohmforce Echoboy, which I also ran into and dismissed for the same reason.

No such plugin. You're confusing them with Sound Toys.

wagtunes wrote:Well, for whatever reason, I went back to their website and saw that two of the synths they make are Minimonsta and Oddity, two synths that I've heard talked about a lot here and with quite some praise.

And that's when Symptom caught my eye again.

Minimonsta and Oddity are collabs with GForce.

wagtunes wrote:The synth is obviously incredibly flexible. There isn't anything that I can imagine it not being able to do, especially with the morphing feature.

So here's the $64,000 question.

Why isn't this a more than suitable replacement for Alchemy? I mean take a look at that nightmare of a thread. You'd think some of these people lost a loved one. I just don't see the synth as being irreplaceable. I think Symptom, just upon initial inspection, is a perfect replacement.

So what am I missing, all you Ohmforce and Alchemy owners? What is it that Alchemy can do that Symptom can't even being to reach?

I'm willing to listen.

In the meantime, I'm seriously considering getting this thing.

I picked it up last year. I think it sounds awesome, but not owning Alchemy, I can't compare them.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:07 pm

thecontrolcentre wrote:
wagtunes wrote:Today, at another forum, I ran into a thread where members were discussing old plugins that they still use. One member brought up the Ohmforce Echoboy, which I also ran into and dismissed for the same reason.

No such plugin. You're confusing them with Sound Toys.

Yeah, my mistake. It's OhmBoyz.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:42 pm

wagtunes wrote:
thecontrolcentre wrote:
wagtunes wrote:Today, at another forum, I ran into a thread where members were discussing old plugins that they still use. One member brought up the Ohmforce Echoboy, which I also ran into and dismissed for the same reason.

No such plugin. You're confusing them with Sound Toys.

Yeah, my mistake. It's OhmBoyz.

So whats with the roll eyes?

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:43 pm

thecontrolcentre wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
thecontrolcentre wrote:
wagtunes wrote:Today, at another forum, I ran into a thread where members were discussing old plugins that they still use. One member brought up the Ohmforce Echoboy, which I also ran into and dismissed for the same reason.

No such plugin. You're confusing them with Sound Toys.

Yeah, my mistake. It's OhmBoyz.
So whats with the roll eyes?

Oh nothing. Just admiring the sunshine.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:49 pm

wagtunes wrote:
thecontrolcentre wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
thecontrolcentre wrote:
wagtunes wrote:Today, at another forum, I ran into a thread where members were discussing old plugins that they still use. One member brought up the Ohmforce Echoboy, which I also ran into and dismissed for the same reason.

No such plugin. You're confusing them with Sound Toys.

Yeah, my mistake. It's OhmBoyz.
So whats with the roll eyes?
Oh nothing. Just admiring the sunshine.

Yeah ... of course you are.

Ah_Dziz · Post by **Ah_Dziz** » Sat Feb 14, 2015 4:54 am

There are tons and tons of things that alchemy does that symptohm cannot do. The spectral and additive resynthesis along with actual morphing of sounds alone creates the opportunity for an infinite palette of sounds that you won't be coming close to with symptohm's granular engine and that is before you get to alchemy's completely insane modulation, effects, and filters. They are just very different synths. Aside from being based on being able to do incredibly wacky things to samples they really don't have much in common.

JJ

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:00 pm

Ah_Dziz wrote:There are tons and tons of things that alchemy does that symptohm cannot do. The spectral and additive resynthesis along with actual morphing of sounds alone creates the opportunity for an infinite palette of sounds that you won't be coming close to with symptohm's granular engine and that is before you get to alchemy's completely insane modulation, effects, and filters. They are just very different synths. Aside from being based on being able to do incredibly wacky things to samples they really don't have much in common.

JJ

So would you say something like Harmor comes closer to what Alchemy can do? Just picked that up and looks pretty deep.

Ohmforce Symptohm Puzzlement